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[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

It's kinda natural to me having used Perl a lot.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

That's not quite the argument you might think it is

[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago
[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago
[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

heheh. I wasn't really making an argument though

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The joke was that Perl is a clusterfuck

[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

It certainly has its issues. I find that the things people have trouble with are the things I tend to like about it. Of course, reading it later is a problem sometimes. :)

Write only language!

I still reach for it sometimes.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The point of code is to be read by other humans, not just computers.

[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Sure. Nothing stopping you writing readable well commented perl. Just avoid some of the more terse statements. It can be a challenge though.

Shrug. If you don't like Perl, don't use it.

[-] msage@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

A lots of things stop you from writing readable Perl code.

You have to forget half of the syntax first. Set perlcritic to max. Force whitespaces.

Download ton of packages for every little thing and hope they are cool with each other.

And still deal with edge cases that make you pluck your eyes out.

[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

FVO readable for future me, it's not so bad. I don't have to worry about other people so much. :)

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

But I want to mock it good-naturedly, too.

[-] l3mming@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

$even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

[-] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

You do get the if in the middle of stuff though in the form print(debug message) if $debug

[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 5 points 1 year ago

Wait until you learn that postfix conditionals are syntactic sugar and the compiler* turns that line into the equivalent of $debug and print(debug message), putting the conditional in first place, a lot like the ternary operator.

* Perl compiles to bytecode before running.

The ternary operator itself isn't implemented in terms of and (and or) but it could be.

[-] psud@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Luckily I don't need to read or write bytecode and all that matters to me is the syntax

[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

perl -e 'print "fart\n" if 1;'

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