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[-] Babalugats@feddit.uk 45 points 1 month ago

Ireland is incorrect. The majority would be blue or red.

[-] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The majority of Ireland speaks English. 39% claim to speak some Irish. 1.5% speak it daily. 10% can speak it well.

[-] Babalugats@feddit.uk 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The map says "how people react when you try to speak their language" Irish is the native language of Ireland. No matter how many people try to say otherwise even with the petty "people claim to speak it"

The Irish language is also in the middle of big revival after the British had criminalised it for centuries and tried to kill it. The fact that it still survives is a testament to the people. It is still considered Irelands language, and I know only a handful of a people of a certain creed that would say otherwise or try to dispute it, and they wouldn't be considered Irish imho.

[-] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Aye but literally nobody speaks it. So the reaction from 90% of people would be 'I have no feckin idea what you're on about mate, conas atá tu?'

Nothing to do with pettiness. I was highlighting that people overestimate their abilities. 39% knowing 'some' Irish means they know a few words. The small clusters that do speak it are mostly in Gaeltacht & Gaelscoileanna students

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Percentage_stating_they_speak_Irish_daily_outside_the_education_system_in_the_2011_census.png/1024px-Percentage_stating_they_speak_Irish_daily_outside_the_education_system_in_the_2011_census.png

[-] Babalugats@feddit.uk 7 points 1 month ago

It doesn't change that Irish is still our language. English is the language that we use due to coercion. The petty remark was in relation to the amount of people who "claim" to speak some of it. Considering it was compulsory in schools until fairly recently, I wouldn't find that unbelievable.

[-] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

English is an official language too, the dominant one which is used day-to-day and understandable by the (vast) majority. History isn't really relevant.

Aye they probably know as much Irish as the average person who took German or French in school remembers, fuck all.

[-] Babalugats@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nobody said otherwise. The Irish language is the language of Ireland. As mentioned, only a certain creed would dispute that. Also as mentioned, it is used and dominant due to coercion. Of course history is relevant.

It's Irrelevant how much you think people may remember what they learned.

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I was going to comment the same, did the person who made this think Ireland is an English speaking country? If so I would suggest they read "Translations" by Brian Friel.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago

I know about revitalization efforts for Irish Gaelic but doesn't the majority speak English?

[-] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

Yes. 99%. Not sure what other people in this thread are on about.

[-] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The one for England is wrong anyway.

If you come to England and attempt to speak to them in bad English, you don't get "no reaction" you get them shouting at you in the mistaken belief that raising their voices makes it easier to understand.

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