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What's a filibuster?
Thank you, I've learned a new english word today. 😺
Conceptually it looks like a flaw in the system and in my opinion is undesirable, do you disagree?
Did that really go right over your head? Unbelievable!
they're right, filibusters are bullshit and shouldn't exist. it's an exploit that was never intended and never fixed.
You are missing the point. Reread the thread.
i didn't miss anything, you presented a bad example and it got shut down immediately.
I'm so shut down. Look at me shut down. What a buffoon.
let me be clear:
the events in the OP article are some racist fuckery. the penalty is far too severe, and it's being maliciously timed to exclude the maori from being represented in critical government processes.
i do agree that disruptive protest has a place in any society and i am supportive of any instance of indigenous people in a colonizer state employing such (and other) measures by default. more please, i will always side with indigenous peoples over colonials.
so yeah i get the broad point and the way it relates back to the article. we see eye-to-eye on the important stuff i think.
my nitpick about comparing this to a filibuster (and it is a nitpick) is that i think the filibuster is a crap exploit exercised in bad faith, and is mostly wielded by bad actors to the detriment of the common person. i believe it is fundamentally a bug in my country's government, as it is not explicitly described but supposedly "implied" by a certain open-endedness in one section of the constitution. it is a dark perversion of disruptive protest, not an example of it. it is an undesirable flaw, the other user is right about that.
i do not agree with them broadly that any disruption of government processes is undesirable. it is often very necessary and appropriate, and increasingly so as the world succumbs further to the grip of fascism.
anyway, both our efforts are better spent elsewhere than arguing over a nitpick in the fine details of an evil empire's increasingly obsolete constitution.
american here. you're entirely right, it's out-and-out an exploit of some vagueness in our constitution but we're conditioned to see it as a somehow important feature of our democracy. there's even a famous movie called Mr Smith Goes To Washington where the good guy saves the day with a filibuster. in real life it's usually used to fuck us over anytime something meaningful looks like it might pass.
that said, the response what happened in the NZ parliament remains some disproportionate and corrupt BS.
A tactic used when the person speaking has been recognized to speak according to the rules of the legislature. I don't really see why that's relevant here though?
It was rhetorical but go on queen.