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[-] ceiron@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Recently got a new iPhone from my company which came with a 3-month trial of Apple TV. So I’m in the middle of a tour de force of the great sci-fi shows in there:

  • Severance
  • Foundation
  • Silo
  • For All Mankind

I’ve only just finished S1 for all of them so no spoilers please!

For All Mankind is amazing. Perhaps a bit too much non-space related drama but still excellent.

Silo also got me very curious to find out what happens in S2.

I’m a big Asimov fan so I was really looking forward to Foundation. S1 was OK but not entirely sure about some of the many ways they have departed from the books.

Severance is perhaps a bit overhyped and disappointed me a bit but it’s still pretty good.

[-] vaguerant@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago

You might want to add Murderbot to this list, since it's currently releasing weekly on Apple TV+. I've been mostly enjoying it so far, at least as far as the story it's telling. My only problem is with the episode length/structure. It's a 22-minute show and I always feel like I'm just getting into it by the time it's over, with the episodes tending to end very abruptly; there's rarely a satisfying conclusion to the story elements introduced in that episode.

I don't normally mind having a week to digest an episode, but with this show it feels like reading a few pages of a book once a week, without the benefit of finishing a chapter. I think the show would be far more enjoyable if watched once all the episodes are available. That said, I find most of the characters likeable and the titular Murderbot's arc is a unique take on the "android develops humanity" trope. Their behavior is already very human at the start, with the major shortfall being their difficulty/discomfort when relating to people, in a way that's very autism-coded.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I found Murderbot to be a disappointing adaptation. I recommend reading the books instead.

[-] highduc@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Would you kindly briefly explain why the books are better?
I like the show, and if the books are even better, I'm curious what I'm missing out on :D

[-] Skavau@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

A warning that For All Mankind ramps up the soap opera drama in S02 quite a lot. It declines a bit again in 3 and 4 (although it's always there).

[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I feel it does become a different show, but I still find it enjoyable. With having to crank up the sense of disbelief due to the need to accept a lot of tech that doesn't currently exist, I think it makes accepting the overdramatic and unrealistic stuff of the characters more bearable than if things would have stayed closer to present day reality. I thought the whole thing was still really fun overall and I can't wait for more.

Silo and Severance stay much more even IMO, but we don't have the massive jumps we get in FAM. Haven't seen Foundation.

[-] Skavau@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

I mean in s02 a particular plot line is kinda revolting and it hurts that they did that. I assume you know which one I mean.

[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure I know which you're referring to. By the words you chose, I think this is about the politician?

I found a lot of the discrimination (all varieties the show goes into) to be something grounding the show a bit while it is still an alt-history show, as it gets tied into some real-world events at the time, socially and politically. Granted I wouldn't have been affected by that stuff then or now, so I'm not saying it shouldn't bother people to see it, and I didn't like how a number of characters get treated for different reasons, but the way people's personal beliefs really cause a lot of trouble in the show throughout all of it is one of the things that makes it compelling to me. I feel it gets to be as much a political show as it is a sci-fi show. If people don't want to see that in their escapism, I get it.

But for myself, with the behavior of all the eventually involved factions still treating each other just as crappy as in today's reality, I find it an interesting change in how space exploration is typically depicted in a world where we've resolved our Earthly pettiness and have formed a cohesive world society of peace and harmony and that was what allowed us to venture off into space. In the FAM universe, we're still as idiotic and petty as ever, and most of what we accomplish is just to spite people we don't like, from a personal level up to the international.

[-] Skavau@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No,

spoilerIt's about Karen and Danny.

[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Oh lord, I remembered the event happened, but I went back to read the details why that was one of the worst parts for you and all of a sudden I realized my brain had repressed a looooot of details about that whole plotline! 😦

Yeah, the show could have done without that!

[-] golli@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

I’m a big Asimov fan so I was really looking forward to Foundation. S1 was OK but not entirely sure about some of the many ways they have departed from the books.

Ironically i'd say the best thing about the show is something they completely made up for the show: the whole genetic dynasty with dawn/day/dusk.

[-] Skavau@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Yes, I'd like a sci-fi show just purely based on that. Purely based on Trantor (or whatever they call it in a show not based on Foundation) . A sci-fi court intrigue empire show based around the mechanics and philosophical implications of a genetic dynasty.

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