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[-] direwolf@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

If Democrats want to win, they better move toward the center because that's where most Americans are.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago

US election turnouts are low because neither party genuinely represents the people. The DNC ran rightward and lost in 2024, are you saying you want them to run further right, or further left? Which "center" are you talking about, the center of left and right, or center of DNC/GOP?

[-] direwolf@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

No, Biden and Harris were too far to the left. Letting in a flood of illegal migrants is a leftist policy.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago
  1. The Biden/Harris presidency locked up as many immigrants as they could. There was no "flood."

  2. Anti-immigration rhetoric is just xenophobic nonsense.

  3. Biden and Harris are far-right, they lost votes by moving right wing.

[-] direwolf@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Republicans told Biden that he can use executive order to secure the border, but he ignored them. Not anti-immigration but securing the border. The US cannot support a flood of migrants. If Biden and Harris were far right, what is Trump?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

The Biden/Harris presidency locked up as many immigrants as they could. There was no "flood."

"Securing the border" is just xenophobic nonsense and anti-immigration rhetoric. The US gains more than it loses when people immigrate.

Trump is a bit more to the right than Biden/Harris, in general the US Empire is a far-right genocidal terrorist regime.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

What an idiotic takeaway.

In fact, there’s fewer and fewer people in the center. Americans are abandoning the center in droves. And the Democratic Party, as liberals always do, is moving right to chase the fascist vote, because the left is a threat to Dems.

[-] direwolf@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

No, if Americans are abandoning the center, Trump's popularity would be soaring. Democrats should move to the right not far right. Merz of Germany adopted tough immigration views, but they were not as extreme as that of the AFD.

[-] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

how did you even get on lemmy.ml? Which line from the manifesto did you copy and paste?

[-] direwolf@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Are you saying that only certain views are allowed on lemmy.ml? How would you learn anything if everyone in the group thinks the same? The psychological term is called groupthink and leads to poor decision making.

[-] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The .ml stands for Marxism-Leninism. That's why you copy-pasted a sentence from the communist manifesto when signing up. Other views are allowed, but only to a point (which you haven't crossed IMO). Although your talk about immigrants is right on the edge, and you probably will eventually be banned from here. Lemmy.world is probably more your speed

On the sidebar, you can see that certain views are absolutely not allowed here:

No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.

If you allow the bigotry, then you face the paradox of tolerance. .

[-] direwolf@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Copying from the Communist Manifesto doesn't necessarily mean that you have to believe in it. I belong to a community here discussing movies. Are you saying that only movies supporting Marxism can be discussed? Securing the border is not bigotry. When Biden was allowing illegal migrants to flood in, cities had migrants sleeping in the streets. Mayors of these cities pleaded with Biden for help, but he ignored them. It is bigotry when there is a hatred for these migrants because of their ethnicity. An example is the AFD party of Germany.

[-] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

You have no idea what you're talking about, you're just regurgitating right wing propaganda. Biden expanded on Trump's xenophobic immigration policies, who expanded on Obama's xenophobic immigration policies, who expanded on Bush's xenophobic immigration policies, etc. And guess what? There's still migrants sleeping in the streets, just like there's still US citizens sleeping in the streets

[-] direwolf@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Biden let illegal migrants flood across the border. One of Trump's top attacks of Biden was that he wasn't controlling the border. Trump has secured the border so well that very few illegal migrants cross. If there are illegal migrants sleeping in the streets, ICE would surely notice and deport them.

[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Goddamn you're dumb

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I dont think its possible for them to be more in the center. You must mean more to the right.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago

They could be closer to the center by moving far to the left.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately they are moving right, and thus even further away from the center

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