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[-] owl@infosec.pub 103 points 1 week ago

These standing seats have been coming next year for the past decade, but they always failed safety tests. Planes need to be evacuated within a certain time frame, which does not work when the plane is too densely packed.

[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 24 points 1 week ago

Can't they go Middle Earth on them and just create more doors?

[-] owl@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago

Pilots were asked about the problem and one said "I sen guards to the exits to help with the evacuation."

[-] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 14 points 1 week ago

I think we should relax rules on how quickly it is to evaluate a plane, and focus more on keeping the plane in the sky. (looking at you Boeing)

I'd love sleeping pods or bunk beds on a plane and accept the higher risk of not being able to get out quickly.

Cars and probably even train are infinitely more dangerous and we accept those risks every day.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 34 points 1 week ago

There is no legitimate reason why trains or cars should be more dangerous modes of transport than flights. It is just that the lobbies for cars and capitalist train operations successfully desensitized everyone to it, so "deadly car crash" is just shrugged away. In the US we see similar attempts to make planes less safe and just accept the numbers of people killed in preventable events.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 week ago

IDK about trains, but the problem with cars is that we let people operate them with minimal training and practically no oversight. You see shit on roads daily where if the driver was flying a plane, they wouldn't even be let on as a passenger anymore ever.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

We could increase the training requirements and oversight. We could design road-networks in a way that makes speeding more difficult and enact stricter speed limits.

Whenever these measures are taking in an area they greatly reduce the number of people killed or seriously injured.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago

We could increase the training requirements and oversight.

I wish.

And who's going to tell all those people that they are not going to drive again, ever? In pilot training, even showing signs of bravado or machismo is grounds for getting failed. The problem is that if you do that those people will go and vote you out, especially in this climate.

One of the main campaign promises of the idiot who got the most votes in the last Dutch election was to put the speed limits back to 130 kmh from the reduced 100 kmh on motorways. People like to be dumb.

BTW it would take minimal effort to enforce highway speed limits with cameras checking entry and exit times and distances. In some places with road tolls, it wouldn't even need any more data collection. A single SQL query would return all those people doing 100 kmh over on the motorways. Wonder why outside of a few outliers, nobody does it.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

One big reason why mass transit is and always will be (part of) the correct answer: Don't have to fear taking away peoples' privelege to drive if transit it there to get them around afterward.

[-] desktop_user 0 points 1 week ago

people don't like wasting time in traffic and will happily take a slightly higher death rate to get it.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

We are not talking about the inherent danger of driving, but the danger caused by people either physically or psychologically unfit to drive. The problem is not highways with speed limits of 130 kmh, but the people driving 240 on them, or the people driving drunk, running red lights, etc.

And as SUV sales show, most people are not comfortable with higher death rates for themselves, but are okay with endangering others. Ironically though, SUVs are more dangerous for their drivers as well, so apparently people are going for a perception of safety rather than actual safety even for themselves.

I had a buddy from Northern Ireland take the Massachusetts driver's test and he was blown away over how many things weren't checked.

[-] owl@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago

I don't think loosening regulations in one place will help in other places.

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