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[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago

Love a story with no details or corroborating evidence, based on one anonymous source.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 16 points 1 day ago

For people asking for other sources:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/is-the-fbi-truly-biased-against-trump

It's this agent, who was involved in investigating Hunter Biden and Rudy Giuliani. He turned whistleblower after charging that FBI leadership and Bill Barr squashed the investigation into Giuliani.

His house was raided in 2023: https://www.newsweek.com/fbi-raids-home-trump-whistleblower-johnathan-buma-1843737

he resigned right as he was arrested in 2025: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/former-agent-who-accused-fbi-of-political-bias-is-charged-with-disclosing-confidential-records

his court cases pending, he's writing a book, running for congress

https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2025/05/01/fbi-whistleblower-johnathan-buma-files-to-run-for-congress-in-arizona/83368871007/

and he did a recent interview with Germany media, where he made the claims about Musk and Thiel that are in the foreign news (not covered much by US media)

https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/trump-musk-putin-100.html

This 2023 article claims Thiel was an informant / source for Buma

https://www.businessinsider.com/peter-thiel-fbi-informant-charles-johnson-johnathan-buma-chs-genius-2023-10

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Well then that just makes it curious that the linked article cited absolutely no sources when there is evidence available. Even if this story is apparently true I would trust absolutely nothing from that site.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 16 hours ago

Lmfao no sources? I just linked you a variety of articles from various sources outlining a very clear timeline of events. The source is the literal guy investigating the situation, what do you mean no sources? He's claiming the department he works in isn't doing their job and he's claiming someone is a Russian plant. Let's step back and consider the following;

  • Everything Trump does parrots Russian sentiment from pressure on Ukraine to harassing our allies about tariffs.

  • Trump's history with the Russian Mafia and Giuliani. Probably don't know this but Giuliani had a lot of praise for how he handled the Italian Mafia in New York, he swapped them for the Russian mob. You literally see this happen in media too, the Italian Mafia fades away as the bad guy and is replaced by the Russians: see Kickass, John Wick, etc. Reflects the cultural change.

  • Trump's history as Roy Cohn's second, alongside Roger Stone who oddly got Bush elected in 2000 with help from the Proto-Proud Boys. Roy Cohn is a character that outlines everything the Republican party embraces today.

  • His consistent relationship with known pedophiles and human trafficking from his weird pageants to his relationship with Epstein and the numerous claims of abuse from many many sources.

  • The Mueller report outlines his entire relationship with Russians with support from the Steele Dossier.

  • This agent himself has clearly been trying to get a message across, he hasn't been allowed to present his case and has clearly been harassed by the administration.

Nepotism, cronyism, relationship with folk like Paul Manafort, Maria Butina and Michael Cohen who is Trump's longtime lawyer and has in court spoken of most of this.

The fuck more evidence you want? Trump's nuts in your mouth after he raped a child? A video of him and Putin admitting to everything? Like you people are complete baboons and nobody is buying your shit lmfao c'mon man

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

First of all, I'm not reading all that. Second, I was talking about the article linked by op. That article had no sources. (I'm now explaining this for the second time) If there are plenty of sources, as in the ones YOU linked, I'm questioning why the article that is the subject of this post was written citing absolutely nothing. It was a shitty article devoid of anything resembling journalism.

I wasn't coming at you, I was coming at the shitty site with the shitty article linked by op.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 13 hours ago

First of all, I'm not reading all that

then shut up you opinion is dumb

To quote a moron

"I'm not reading all that"

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

So what's the actual evidence consist of?

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

LoL. The bots don’t like your reasonable expectation.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 22 hours ago

Yup; asking for evidence is treason.

[-] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 9 points 1 day ago

Usual suspects come to Russia's rescue

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Thanks for your input, senator McCarthy

[-] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

McCarthy was anticommunist, if you believe that current Russia has anything to do with worker liberation, I cannot help you.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 21 hours ago

K. Not what I meant, and you know it.

[-] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

Current Russia is about as far from communism, socialism or any left-wing agenda as possible. It is a reactionist, authoritarian, pro-tradition anti-progress state run by a wealthy elite. Being against current Russia has literally nothing to do with McCarthyism, other than geography.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

PSA @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml is a troll

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago

@InternetCitizen2 is a self admitted troll who has started stalking me across all of lemmy lying about me in every thread because he got enraged I said genocide denial is bad.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 15 hours ago

moron can't even @ right

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago

Ok, still not what I was talking about, as you know.

[-] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

Then please explain what other association you have with McCarthy? Because the one I perceive as commonly used seems to not be it?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Accusing people of being Russian agents with no evidence as away of silencing disagreement.

[-] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

Eeh, come on. While yes, that is one way to put it, McCarthy has a certain ring to it, especially in left and liberal circles. Something something you cannot not evoke a thing without its frame.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago

Notice how I know have multiple people stalking me across my entire post history and attacking me because I asked for evidence?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago

Attacking all of your political enemies by claiming that they're secretly Russian agents, and then accusing anyone who asks you for evidence of also being Russian agents is very much in line with the ring McCarthy has to in in left and liberal circles.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

So you didn’t believe anything that Snowden said was possible either? This isn’t a conviction. It’s just a lead.

[-] andybytes@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

Julian Assange and Snowden are characters who reveal the inner workings of the deep state. They are nonpartisan and it should reveal how the sausage is made and how you fit in that sausage.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

Snowden had evidence

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

It's not even a lead, it's an anonymous accusation with no specifics.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sorry. I didn’t realize you meant the agent was anonymous and not the source.

The agent is Jonathan Buma. His arrest was made public at the time of the initial leak. Now we’re just hearing some more details.

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/russian-spies-targeted-elon-musk-using-sex-drugs-ex-fbi-agent-drops-bombshell-glbs-2726462-2025-05-18

[-] tane2@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago
[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but it confirms what that already wanted to believe, so it's gospel

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

Ah ok, the kyivInsider article didn't name him so I assumed he was an anonymous.

Well, he isn't an anonymous source, but it is still just an uncorroborated accusation with little if any details.

[-] the_q@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago
[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Fallacy fallacy

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

To your point, the details are coming through unnamed sources in the article. I thought that’s what you were getting at. I’m inclined to believe it’s true, but we’ll have to wait for a formal deposition to know what’s what.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

I’m inclined to believe it’s true

Well yes, because it's playing into conspiracy theories that were already popular when he started making the claims. That's why I'm dubious about it; he's very much saying what a lot of people already wanted to hear.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Absolutely fair. However, the reason I’m inclined to believe it is because of its likelihood, not because I want it to be true.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Well that's just circular reasoning: "I think it's likely to be true because I think it's likely to be true"

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago
[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago
[-] andybytes@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Ohhhh sheeeet hahahah totally hammer right on the god damn head.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Democrats always end up just being the Republicans of 10 years ago

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 day ago

For people asking for other sources:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/is-the-fbi-truly-biased-against-trump

It's this agent, who was involved in investigating Hunter Biden and Rudy Giuliani. He turned whistleblower after charging that FBI leadership and Bill Barr squashed the investigation into Giuliani.

His house was raided in 2023: https://www.newsweek.com/fbi-raids-home-trump-whistleblower-johnathan-buma-1843737

he resigned right as he was arrested in 2025: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/former-agent-who-accused-fbi-of-political-bias-is-charged-with-disclosing-confidential-records

his court cases pending, he's writing a book, running for congress

https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2025/05/01/fbi-whistleblower-johnathan-buma-files-to-run-for-congress-in-arizona/83368871007/

and he did a recent interview with Germany media, where he made the claims about Musk and Thiel that are in the foreign news (not covered much by US media)

https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/trump-musk-putin-100.html

This 2023 article claims Thiel was an informant / source for Buma

https://www.businessinsider.com/peter-thiel-fbi-informant-charles-johnson-johnathan-buma-chs-genius-2023-10

this post was submitted on 18 May 2025
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