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In exchange for the resettling of Palestinians, the administration would potentially release to Libya billions of dollars of funds that the U.S. froze more than a decade ago, those three people said.

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[-] DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The hell it would have. To say that the fate of Gaza would have been the same is absolute horseshit.

Democrats lost the election because a bunch of shitheel Muricans decided to stay home.

It's our fault and fuck y'all for trying to blame Democrats for not inspiring people to protect marginalized groups.

Dems suck but so does the general population that refuses to take any responsibility for their part in making this happen.

If you need a god damn politician to inspire you to think beyond yourself, you fuckin suck and are trash.

Over it.

Edit: I'm not responding to any more of you kids who are trying to justify sitting on your asses. None of you have helped save a single Palestinian life.

You're just spoiled Americunts who think you're superheroes for doing nothing

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

What evidence do you have for your claim that things are worse in Gaza under Trump than they were under the Biden/Kamala path?

Note, rhetoric is not evidence. Trump lies all the time. Biden lies all the time. Trump says he would like the US to ethnically cleanse Gaza, but he's taken no actual steps towards that end. And Biden also tried to negotiate resettlement of the Gazans to other countries.

All I'm seeing here are vibe. You see someone who is objectively a bad human being, and you decide that they must be the worst possible person on Earth for every conceivable category. Trump can be far worse domestically than Biden while still being equivalent to him in terms of Palestine.

So again, don't quote me rhetoric. I don't care about Trump's verbal diarrhea. What actual material things can you point to that are different from what Biden was allowing without any resistance? Because I think you're mostly just going on vibes.

[-] DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 5 points 21 hours ago

You're asking me to compare Biden and Trump.

Was Biden or Kamala talking about how great it would be to have a resort on the beach there, oh wait. That's rhetoric, and in no way is that a reflection of their actions or intentions.

Where y'all at now, anyway? Haven't seen any of you protesting lately. Don't you still give a shit, or has the talking point you used to stay at home done it's job?

I don't owe you a god damn thing.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago

I voted for Harris and I blame the democrats. They knew the stakes, they know the populist moment we're in, and they decided that their best strategy was to take all the excitement and buzz of the new Kamala candidacy and say "we're not going to really change anything; if things suck for you, no they don't, actually, you're just stupid lol; anyway, look, here's Katy Perry and Barack Obama lecturing down to a bunch of black men." The DNC twisted Kamala's arm to make sure she didn't insult Biden by saying she'd do anything different, because protecting the feefees of long standing and well regarded party members is more important than winning or getting shot done. The DNC decided to stack Kamala's campaign with the same staff that lost the HRC campaign. Nobody made them decide that celebrity guest appearances were more important than proposing actually good changes to get out the vote, but here we are.

[-] krakenfury@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 2 days ago

There's absolutely no evidence that Harris getting elected would have done fuck all for Palestine.

Democrats lost because a lot of people who voted for Biden in 2020 voted for Trump in 2024. This was due to a perception of a majority of voters that Trump was going to do a better job on the economy, immigration, and foreign policy.

When you look at the polling data, the genocide of Palestinians does not rank high at all, even among Democrats.

Stop blaming people for what they do with their vote. That's the entire fucking point of a democracy. Hold the right people accountable for thinking they could coast to victory on a strategy of "not being Trump".

[-] DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Except instead of talking about building a resort in Gaza, she wanted a two state solution.

I will blame people for a moral failing all I want. Y'all decided to latch on to ONE issue and didn't give a shit who was harmed because of it, because suddenly, after over half a century of genocide, NOW you gave a shit

You did what the algorithm wanted you to do, and you don't care who got hurt or is currently in El Salvador, because hey, at least your shit don't stink

My trans son says "fuck you".

You are a wannabe. You don't give a shit about genocide. Because if you did, you'd do everything you could to save lives.

But instead you decided it was morally superior to let Trump in.

You're all bastards who have put my loved ones in danger.

[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

She was lying, fucking duh

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