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Analysis: Clean energy just put China’s CO2 emissions into reverse for first time
(www.carbonbrief.org)
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Probably because total amount of CO2 is what matters to avoiding ecological doom. Further, economies and CO2 regulations are largely segmented between US, EU, and China.
Yea tbh. I'm in agreement as someone from the US. Anything that potentially reduces CO2 is a good thing.
Although that's true it's still a BULLSHIT argument.
The a target is better measured as a global average per capita, and then the countries can be compared on how close they are to that average.
That would CLEARLY show that Americans are behaving like pigs regarding CO". While both EU and China are way ahead of USA.
The above graph is worthless and a very misleading representation of reality.
I've been arguing this point for more than 20 years now, but the world is apparently still not serious enough to draw the necessary consequences.
To top it off, if the US was pressured to reduce its CO2 as harshly as possible, you'd probably force the US to improve its walking and bicycle infrastructure in cities and add additional pressure to incentivize people to move closer to work, likely drastically improving the average American's quality of life through shorter commutes, less dangerous driving related deaths, less pollution, and less social atomization.
The only people external pressure to reduce CO2 would really hurt are like the richest 10-5% of people here anyway. So I'm all for it even beyond the environmental benefits.
You are absolutely right, there is so much USA could do to improve society.
But the only thing that really counts for half the population, is to ease taxes on the 1%.
IDK why, but that's apparently a very popular thing for both average and poor people in USA?
I used to have hope for USA, thinking they always turn in the right direction eventually, but since George W Bush was elected for a 2nd term, that hope has been chipped away. Obama did provide a glimmer of hope, but followed by horrible to mediocre to horrible again, so shortly after Bush. That's a very bad average, and the tendency has been tracking towards worse for a long time now. Hopefully USA is at the bottom right now, but my hopes for that are near zero.
This doesn't make sense when it's Americans using China's pollution to justify not scaling back our pollution.