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[-] tauren@lemm.ee 23 points 4 days ago

Don't worry about that. Some people just made AI-hate their whole personality. They take pride in fact that they don't understand these new tools and can't use them. That's a relatively new trend, but it'll pass.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 38 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Some people just made AI-hate their whole personality.

It's being used to replace human workers by the exploitative wealthy, and it's actively destroying the environment we live in. If you are not against "AI" (that is, generative machine learning models - there's no intelligence involved) then you are colluding with the robber barons.

[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 23 points 4 days ago

That is caused by Capitalism, not AI.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Unless you are training your models at home on your own private server, the current generation of ML models are dependent on the capitalist corporate model. They are trained on large datasets collected by corporate surveillance using server farms owned and operated by corporations, by developers paid by those corporations.

The capitalism and the "AI" are inextricably linked. If you use any of their apps you are patronizing them.

[-] tauren@lemm.ee 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

How many human workers lost their jobs because of this meme?

Here is the answer for self-assessment:

spoilerzero

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

It normalizes the use of genAI for even more things.

Today it's just shitposts, where quality isn't important.

Tomorrow it'll be one off projects that their creator really wanted to be out, so quality won't be important.

After tomorrow, it'll be small group efforts becoming "solo endeavours" with lower quality artwork.

After that, it'll be corporations within the creative fields that really want to lay off their workforce, even if it means lower quality work, because they can make up with the lower production costs and higher quantity.

And one day, we will wake up to a reality, where everything is AI generated slop, and we won't be the "idea guys", who write the prompts for them.


If you ask: not all other technologies were all good either. Cars made us dependent on them, forever restructuring our cities, atomizing our communities. Hell, some of the tools that made creative endeavors, such as home recording and easy to use game engines caused "the bedroom djent kid" and "fetishization of solo indie devs" problems respectively.

[-] tauren@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

That reminds me of Putin's argument on why a person who threw a plastic drinking glass at a policeman was arrested: "Today they throw plastic drinking glasses, tomorrow they'll start throwing molotovs, then - killing people."

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

The irony in this is that autocrats really love generative AI, especially when it is used to dismantle democracy.

[-] tauren@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

There is no irony. Autocrats use all available tools. They would use lemmy and fediverse too if it wasn't too small to manipulate public opinion.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 10 points 3 days ago

Uh huh, and how many graphic artists lost their jobs because of this model (and others like it) being sold to companies as a way to produce marketing material without paying an artist?

And how many unnecessary pounds of carbon were pumped into the atmosphere because of this meme?

[-] tauren@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

This post is bad and deserves 20 "ai slop" comments because somebody did something else somewhere else using a similar tool? Is that what you think?

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 4 points 3 days ago

You either object to the acceleration of exploitation and environmental destruction and refuse to participate in it, or you are a collaborator.

[-] tauren@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

Wow, I destroyed your original argument, so you brought a new one without even acknowledging that you were wrong. It's a brilliant way to never lose an argument.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 points 3 days ago

Um, actually this is my original argument...

It’s being used to replace human workers by the exploitative wealthy, and it’s actively destroying the environment we live in. If you are not against “AI” (that is, generative machine learning models - there’s no intelligence involved) then you are colluding with the robber barons.

See my comment here: https://infosec.pub/post/28262077/15946745

This:

You either object to the acceleration of exploitation and environmental destruction and refuse to participate in it, or you are a collaborator.

...is a restatement of that original expressed truth.

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago
[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 points 3 days ago

I'm actually not sure how to interpret this image in this context... are you implying that the argument over AI is part of the culture war distraction? or are you agreeing with me that AI is a tool of "they"?

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I just want "real" posts with human thought and intent behind them. Because what's even the point of a social media of machine-generated content? The more you outsource to the machine, the less real it becomes. AI images look like shit as well, but that may eventually pass.

In this case, the captions are written too well to be designed by the statistics machine. So maybe it deserves less flak than for example that one slop comic a bit ago where the AI gave a glass of water a speech bubble. The hierarchy lines are still clearly hallucinated by the AI and not designed by a human.

can't use them

Flipping this around so that it's the AI bros who are doing something novel that others can't is some galaxy-brained mental gymnastics gaslight move. Fucking anyone can ask the image generator to generate an image.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Lol, because it's so hard

I hate AI because its stans are so fucking delusional I sometimes wonder if that's the actual point of it.

[-] tauren@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

Where do you find AI stans? I do find morons crying about AI under every other meme here though. You are the problem.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Are…are we abbreviating standards now? Why wasn’t I told!

[-] vivi@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 days ago

"stan" means an obsessive fan, originating from an Eminem song

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Thanks, friend

[-] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago

At least those people have a personality...

Are you implying that people who don't like AI are akin to Luddites?

I just don't like AI art.

That idea of that post is really cute, someone could have illustrated that and it could have been lush.

AI art is just an updated version of airbrush art you'd find on the rides at a fairground - it's tacky.

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 16 points 4 days ago

I have no issue with using AI in research and problem solving where it actually exceeds humans. For meme making, OP could have at least made sure it draws an actual hierarchy instead of every node connected to every other node. Or at least fix it in Paint afterwards.

More importantly, let's stop calling LLMs AI.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

Dude. This is a Lemmy community for cats. Your standards might be a little excessive. 🤷‍♂️

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 17 points 4 days ago

My standards would have accepted a doodle made in Paint. This is lower effort than that, for way more computational power wasted (which, in turn, means more energy and heat wasted).

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