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[-] mke@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

GenAI advocates would rather get rid of IP altogether, though. They claim they're all running ethical models already and it's perfect, but they also want artists' right to opt-out to not exist. Nevermind compensation, or the need for opt-in, we can't even agree on the importance of consent.

[-] Ptsf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

And robocallers/spam callers would rather get rid of bans on automated call systems and enforcement of Do Not Call lists. Doesn't mean we have to do what they want, and it would be an extremely ineffective argument to argue for a ban on phones or even just a ban on automated call systems connected to phones. Both are tools with extremely legitimate use cases that can and have been exploited for malicious and unethical means. Welcome to the complexity of modern living. I see you as an ally, but I warn that we'll need to be specific in our language and our desires in order to shape the discussion properly, else you'll just end up categorized with the "nutjobs wanting to ban phones" (embellished simile I'm using to give you an example in a different context) and you're going to lose a lot of momentum from the legitimately ethical people who are on your side.

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