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[-] boramalper@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Fun fact: Copyright is also the basis on which you enforce copyleft provisions such as the those in GPL. In a world without copyright, there are no software licenses yet alone copyleft.

I know it’s very challenging for “this community” (FOSS users & developers let’s say) because a significant number of them also support shadow libraries such as Sci-Hub and Library Genesis and Anna’s Archive so how do we reconcile “copyleft (therefore copyright) good” with “copyright bad”?

I don’t have a clear answer yet but maybe the difference is as simple as violating copyright for personal purposes vs business purposes? Anyway…

[-] CosmicGiraffe@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

The GPL uses copyright because it's the legal mechanism available to enforce the principles that the GPL wants to enforce. It's entirely consistent to believe that copyright shouldn't exist while also believing that a law should exist to allow/enforce the principles of the GPL.

[-] boramalper@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

That’s fair! Though I find it (new laws that enforce the principles of copyleft) pretty unlikely so I’d much prefer a world with copyright + copyleft (GPL) than a world without either where mega corporations can exploit the commons without being obliged to share back.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

It's literally called copyright because it's about the rights to copy something. The new law would still be a form of copyright.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Without copyright there would be no need for copyleft. Its right there in the name.

[-] boramalper@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Without copyright there would be no need for copyleft. Its right there in the name.

It sounds plausible but it’s wrong. Without copyright, you are allowed to copy, use, and distribute all digital works regardless but being legally allowed doesn’t mean (a) that you are able to (e.g. copying might be ~impossible due to DRM and other security measures) and (b) that you are entitled to the source code of such work so someone can take your FOSS code, put it in their proprietary software, and then distribute only the binaries.

Copyleft licenses, through copyright, enforce sharing.

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