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[-] ouch@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago

If you want your group memberships to be known only by the group members, use Signal.

[-] sykaster@feddit.nl 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just be sure to add only the people you want to be there. I've heard some people add others and it's a bit messy

[-] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 1 week ago

How bad can it be, it's not like we're sharing state secrets

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

We're clean on OpSec

[-] ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago

Or https://simplex.chat/ where there are no identifiers like phone numbers or any other identifier.

Security review was done by trail of bits.

Or P2P stuff like Briar :)

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Or Matrix (warning some assembly required)

[-] new_guy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

WhatsApp isn’t the only messenger lacking cryptographic assurances for new group members. In 2022, a team that included some of the same researchers that analyzed WhatsApp found that Matrix—an open source and proprietary platform for chat and collaboration clients and servers—also provided no cryptographic means for ensuring only authorized members join a group. The Telegram messenger, meanwhile, offers no end-to-end encryption for group messages, making the app among the weakest for ensuring the confidentiality of group messages.

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

That study was 3 years ago, features to create private (invite only) group chats are supported now.

[-] sem 3 points 1 week ago

How can matrix be insecure when it keeps locking me out of my own messages?

[-] coconut@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

an open source and proprietary platform

Are parts of matrix closed source?

[-] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 8 points 1 week ago

I actually found xmpp to be a breeze compared to most Matrix solutions.

Synapse is bloated, dendrite sucks and conduit is in perpetual beta and the uwu forks die too fast.

XMPP:

  1. Install Snikket
  2. Reverse proxy
  3. Done
[-] coconut@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Just use signal is not a valid statement in a world where vast majority of people aren't using (and won't use) it. I have been trying to get people to install it and have a total of 6 over several years. They only use it to communicate with me.

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