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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29626776

["fierce opposition"? Don't bet on it.]

By TIA GOLDENBERG and SAM MEDNICK
Updated 5:25 AM EDT, May 5, 2025

TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — Israel approved plans on Monday to capture the entire Gaza Strip and remain in the territory for an unspecified amount of time, two Israeli officials said, in a move that if implemented would vastly expand Israel’s operations in the Palestinian territory and likely bring fierce international opposition.

Israeli Cabinet ministers approved the plan in an early morning vote, hours after the Israeli military chief said the army was calling up tens of thousands of reserve soldiers.

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[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I have never come across anyone supporting Trump on lemmy. I voted for Kamala but we are in a post election environment. The election is OVER and they betrayed us.

Demanding the dems stop supporting genocide on the grounds that it's the right thing to do and it clearly alienated their voters is not supporting Trump.

Holding the dems accountable for the shit show they orchestrated at the behest of israel is not supporting Trump.

Demanding they start to actually represent us and demanding internal changes in the party is not supporting Trump.

Who are you supporting by defending their stance on genocide so consistently?

[-] finder585@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Who are you supporting by defending their stance on genocide so consistently?

Dems don't support genocide. Claiming otherwise is outright misinformation FUD targeting Democratic voters to drive support for RUpublicans.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Dems don’t support genocide.

Then whose administration kept selling weapons for genocide from 2023 through 2024?

[-] finder585@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Sure. All opposition to your genocide must be support for trump.

You will never admit that netanyahu was wrong prior to 2025.

[-] finder585@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Netanyahu was always a scumbag and Israel and Palestine would be far better off with almost anyone else in charge.

Yet you refuse to condemn Trump and continue to attack the Democrats.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Trump is a piece of shit and always will be. You just can't comprehend that there are people who don't like genocide.

[-] finder585@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Attacking the Democrats is explicit support for the genocide carried out by Israel and the planned genocide the Republicans want to carry out.

Edit: And support for the genocide being carried out against Ukraine by the Russian Federation.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

You just want silence no matter what democrats do.

Opposition to democratic support for genocide is that alone, and anyone who tries to make it more than that does so only out of support for genocide.

[-] finder585@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

anyone who tries to make it more than that does so only out of support for genocide.

Now you are just projecting, fascist.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Tell me, is everyone who doesn't love genocide and only genocide as much as you do also a fascist?

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Huh, that's really odd conclusion to draw from Democrats literally supporting genocide. Harris couldn't even be bothered to come out against it during the campaign even when they knew their support was a losing issue.

[-] finder585@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Again, more Fascist supporting apologia.

The DNC does not support genocide, Trump supports the genocide of Palestine. How dense do you have to be to not see that you are supporting the genocide of Palestine?

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 5 points 4 days ago

There are multiple meanings of "support." There's an endorsement meaning, which can be explicit or tacit, and there's an aiding meaning. The Democrats may not explicitly endorse it, but the Biden administration certainly did tacitly endorse it by directly aiding it. And most of the party has been tacitly endorsing and aiding it for decades.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago
[-] finder585@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago
[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

As your links show, the dems created a massive vulnerability by supporting genocide. It doesnt say anything about them not supporting it.

The dems have to change their stance. Russia using their support for genocide against them doesnt mean we should support genocide. They kind of solve both problems by publicly condemning Israel and its what voters want as well.

[-] finder585@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

At least you are honest about supporting Russian aligned fascists.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

No, im honest about the fact that supporting genocide is stupid and supporting it harder because the Russians are using that support to their advantage is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

You dont have a leg to stand on, and your sources dont even counter my point. They seem to actually help my argument.

The democrates supported genocide and are POS for doing it. By defending their position, you support genocide (this part is probably not news for you, Im guessing you're in the "right to defend themselves" looney crowd.)

[-] finder585@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

supporting genocide is stupid

By defending their position,

But yet here you are arguing against supporting the DNC because they "support" genocide, despite the fact that the RNC is fully supporting genocide abroad and laying the ground work to start their own genocide in the states.

Tell me, do you also support a one state solution too?

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yes, because THE DNC SUPPORTED GENOCIDE. I don't care about your whataboutism.

The dems need to stop supporting genocide and the apartheid state of Israel because :

  • It is the right thing to do
  • it's alienating their voters
  • their support for it gave the election to Trump

The dems literally got Trump elected with their short sighted support for a foreign genocidal nation.

Tell me your views on Israel bro, tell me how they aren't the bad guys and it isnt really a genocide. I'm guessing thats what you are really trying to say.

[-] finder585@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Israel is committing genocide.

The Republicans want to commit genocide, but you can't seem to say that for some reason?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

So do democrats, or they wouldn't have supplied them with weapons for a solid year.

Stop pretending that you're not just here to lie about democrats' enthusiastic unconditional support for your genocide.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Lmao, I fucking hate the republicans. Trump is literally the anti-christ. And yes, they support the genocide too.

I'm also pissed at the dems for basically trying their hardest to get him elected and see scapegoating voters as helping their losing defunct platform as well as by extent the zionist platform.

I want change and making voters feel bad and only blaming them guarantees we dont get change.

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