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[-] houseofleft@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

Not to absolve capitalism, but it's pretty easy to add market incentives to at least slightly address climate change. The concept of "externalities" has been around for a while, where something has a net social impact outside of its sale. It's normally solved with taxes and levies.

The real issue seems to be nobody havong the appetite to even attempt the most basic solutions to the problem, mainly thanks to lobbying.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

“Slightly” addressing climate change doesn’t cut it. That’s like slightly addressing a raging fire. Incrementalism is climate denial.

[-] houseofleft@slrpnk.net 1 points 19 hours ago

I definitely get your point. I think it was pretty lousy wording from me to start with, and I should have said that those are pretty big levers to impact climate change rather than underplaying them as "slightly adressing".

I don't think any country has done enough, but countries that have put measures in place climate change are miles ahead of those that haven't. Compare New Zealand, or Sweden, to the USA.

To be clear as well, I'm not advocating incrementalism, I'm advocating that we do everything to adress climate change, and we're specifically talking about just one thing. Saying we shouldn't bother using the levers we have because they don't solve the whole problem is like saying you're not going to call the fire brigade because they won't get there in time to save the whole house.

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