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TranscriptA threads post saying "There has never been another nation ever that has existed much beyond 250 years. Not a single one. America's 250th year is 2025. The next 4 years are gonna be pretty interesting considering everything that's already been said." It has a reply saying "My local pub is older than your country".

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[-] Limonene@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

If I assume by the word "Pub" that they are in the UK, their country has only existed for 103 years. Obviously, that doesn't mean the end of the people, or the pubs, just the end of that system of government and/or territorial border.

There's no shame in it. Constitutions and bills of rights need to be updated as people become more enlightened and civilized. The US would certainly be better off if it had had more constitutional amendments over these 250 years. Maybe then it wouldn't need a revolution.

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

If you're going to count every little border change, then the US is only 66 years old - Alaska and Hawaii joined in 1959. If you're going to count every little constitutional revision, then the US is only 33 - the 27th amendment was finally ratified only in 1992.

[-] TimMadisun@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Mate, the UK has existed for a touch over 103 years.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 6 points 2 weeks ago

The UK of GB and NI is presumably what they're referring to. Whether or not you count changing territory and name as the beginning or end of a nation is subjective, I guess

[-] shutz@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

If changing territory resets the count, then the US is only as old as when Hawaii or Alaska joined (I think Hawaii was the last addition? Dunno, I'm not an American...)

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

They were both in 1959, but Hawaii was later in the year.

[-] WHARRGARBL@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

JFC American education system

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago

Reading through these comments it isn't just the American education system. There's seemingly very few people in here with the understanding that Country and Nation are not full synonyms. The former is primarily about the age of a central government while the latter is mostly about shared culture and language.

So yes, the original tweet or whatever is ignorant but so are most of these comments...even the ones being made by non-Americans.

[-] uienia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

England Wales and Scotland are countries which are a lot older. Your semantics isnt really reflective of the truth

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