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[-] kadu@lemmy.world 160 points 1 year ago

There are hardly any alternatives for people who don't have the time to self-host and setup everything.

"Oh but Firefox!" the tools that Mozilla provides are indeed good - but there's no Mozilla Photos, Mozilla Notes, Mozilla Assistant, and so on.

"Oh but Microsoft!" and why would that be better than Google?

"Oh but mix Firefox with Proton and this specific GitHub project for photo management and this FOSS notes apps with a Docker backend for sync and thi-" I wish I had the time to do that, truly, I actually prefer many of the FOSS alternatives I've seen lately. I do not have the time nor hardware to do this correctly.

[-] thekerker@kbin.social 55 points 1 year ago

I wholeheartedly agree. I'm a technical person, I run Linux as my primary OS and use FOSS software. But I also have a full time job and 2 small kids, and frankly I just don't have the time or patience to be a full time sysadmin. Proton has come a long way in providing alternatives to Gmail, GCalendar, GDrive, etc., but like you said if you want to replace ALL of Google you practically have to self host a gazillion Nextcloud instances or whatever.

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Why does it have to be Mozilla everything? I want Mozilla to continue doing what it does best: build browsers and (maybe) mail clients.

Not everything has to be unified. I'd be quite content with Teehee Photos, Hoho Notes and Huehuehue Assistant as long as they're decent tools.

[-] seasonone@opidea.xyz 16 points 1 year ago

I kinda agree with you. Before my exams I had lot of time. I used to self host nextcloud, email and invidious etc. But during exam had no time to manage instances or update my packages, one after than another they kept showing error and they went offline.

I stopped my VPS and started using Google Drive(it was already available on my android) to share my notes temporarily with friends, soon I kept using it. I hope protonmail becomes better so I can start using them instead of other products

[-] zatanas@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

This is how they do it. They wedge themselves in via convenience with the hopes that we'll stay on their ecosystem eventually.

I hope you'll soon find the time to regain your independence from them. Best of luck.

[-] Noxvento@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

What I don't like about Proton is that I can't combine Mail Plus and Pass Plus. I don't need a 500 GB Proton Drive or Proton VPN, but I like their Mail and Password Manager. Now I use Mail for free and Password Manager for €12/year. I would like to pay €3.99/month for the Mail offer, but for that I would have to upgrade to the much more extensive Proton Unlimited.

[-] saltdream@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

It’s a hard fight between all the time maintaining your own stuff takes and the utter resistance by other users who just won’t learn anything new or use any real security.

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