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[-] soft_frog@kbin.social 49 points 2 years ago

Yeah this whole thing isn't simple. Even if he's cleared of charges, these allegations are old and that makes them hard to prove or disprove.

Further, the quantity is concerning. Maybe he's just prolifically sexual but my gut can't really get passed how many accusations there are over such a long span of time. Even if innocent, still creepy is my opinion.

[-] Givesomefucks@kbin.social 40 points 2 years ago

In general, any multimillionaire that gets off of a serious charge doesn't mean they're innocent.

It just another example of having ridiculous amounts of money in our legal system means it's really hard to be hel accountable.

Hell, trump got off of beating and raping his wife, because of an old ass New York law that said a husband can't rape his wife under any circumstance.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago

In general, any multimillionaire that gets off of a serious charge doesn’t mean they’re innocent.

Don't forget the flip-side of that - the prisons are full of poor people who do not deserve to be there. It's almost as if the system was designed to be like this...

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago

the quantity is concerning

And also not admissible in a criminal court. That's part of the problem. If you look at the big picture, it's obvious he did it, but it's not as easy to prove it in criminal court.

[-] soft_frog@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

Even if it were all legally fine, something is wrong if that many people are coming forward.

[-] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

Is it really obvious that he did something, or is it obvious that he's another gay man being attacked for daring to publicly admit that he's gay? Sure there's a lot of allegations, but many of them were dropped by the accusers, and as the article points out there was a huge rush of "me too" allegations brought out against many people at the same time because it was the trending get-rich-quick scheme. Even in Spacey's case, why did most of these allegations not come out until he admitted he was gay?

IMHO if Spacey is actually guilty of these crimes, he's going to be blackballed by all the studios and won't ever be seen on the screen again. Although the courts didn't prove him guilty, the studios know who is doing what, and in today's market any further allegations will cost them money.

[-] aaaa@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

Even in Spacey’s case, why did most of these allegations not come out until he admitted he was gay?

I think it went the other way around, didn't it? At least the first accusations came out, and he used the occasion to say "I didn't do that! But now that I'm talking about this stuff, by the way I'm gay."

It wasn't a great look, because it came across that he tried to deflect the accusations by coming out as gay.

[-] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

True enough, and he caught hell for the timing of that announcement. There's also the issue of there just being such a different culture of what's "acceptable" in Hollywood. I think it's great that it finally came to light and those activities were at least tempered somewhat, but I also remember reading a lot of claims a decade ago and just thinking to myself that this is something you're claiming 'everyone' in Hollywood is doing, but you chose to specifically target this one actor? The "me too" train was real, and a lot of people were going after big name actors, so I got burnt out on the whole thing and just stopped paying any attention to it.

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