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Did I say the slave trade was an industrial genocide?
You are cherry picking parameters to try and make the Holocaust some kind of unique tier of atrocity.
In the same time frame 20 million Slavs died.
On certain islands in the Caribbean, 100% of the native population was murdered and displaced, which is more than 90%.
Yes, there are certain aspects of the Holocaust that are unique, but it is not in a unique tier by itself. There are many metrics that make other atrocities worse.
I don't know how else to say it, but: the unique aspects of the Holocaust are what makes the Holocaust unique.
Making up "tiers" of mass murder or genocide is dehumanizing. There is no point in trying to compare these atrocities - except of course if someone wants to say e.g. "Well, the holocaust wasn't that bad".
This whole discussion is in the context that, in Germany and the Western world, the Holocaust is positioned as the worst thing that ever happened. And the Nazi's as uniquely evil.
That's the propaganda we are arguing against.
Even if that is "the propaganda" (which I have not seen in this thread btw): your counterproposition is not to dispose of the whole one-dimensional "which atrocity is worse" bullshit, but instead formalizing it by speaking of tiers and arguing that the holocaust wasn't that bad. That's dehumanizing, has no value at all (it's not like a "tier 2 genocide" it somehow more okay) and instead opens the doors for Nazi apologia and antisemtism and derails the discussion.
I didn't say that Holocaust wasn't that bad, that's you being racist.
Yes you did. The comment you replied to said:
You then replied with:
I have chatbots with better reading comprehension than this.
Don't cherry pick and misquote dude.
Please explain what "Yes there has been" was referring to then.
Go up three comments to read the full context. Like a normal human.