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[-] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What part of their comment assumes that everyone else is from their country? I only see them referring to themselves and their own country.

If I said "we need public transit as a city" am I assuming that everyone lives in my city or am I simply talking about my own city? I don't see why this is any different and it seems very nitpicky.

[-] anas@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

If I said "we need public transit as a city" am I assuming that everyone lives in my city or am I simply talking about my own city?

That’s exactly what I would assume, because you’re talking like your city is the default and everyone knows which one you’re talking about.

[-] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

talking like your city is the default and everyone knows which one you’re talking about.

Does this mean that everyone must always specify the geographic area they are from when they talk about it lest they risk being accused of assuming everyone knows? I often say that "we need public transit in my city" and it never once crossed my mind that other people would know or assume what city I'm referring to.

I still don't see how saying that you want x or y in your country is equivalent to talking like your community is the default.

I would totally agree if the statement was "we need x in my country and you all should vote for it" because that would be assuming everyone reading is able to participate and therefore lives there. But that's far from what the statement was, which made no assumptions and didn't even mention a country. All they said was that they want something in their country.

[-] VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

While you're right. It would be better to say something like "I need it for my country" or "US needs it". Since English doesn't distinguish between inclusive and exclusive "we", it can lead to the conclusion that the commenter supposes people reading their comment are from US as well.

[-] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago

I agree it could be more clear, but I don't think it's fair to jump down their throat when they didn't even mention the US. It just strikes me as an uncharitable interpretation.

[-] yggstyle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's pedantic. At best because someone wants to virtue signal by tilting at windmills. At worst It's a bad faith argument being made to isolate someone. In both cases it's shite behavior:

An example would be assailing someone for not liking cookies when they simply said they enjoy cake. This tactic was originally used by trolls and hate groups to splinter larger social groups support structure and/or put people on the backfoot... It's become so commonplace people will do it just because the opportunity presents itself. Because someone else will if they don't, anyway. Might as well get the glory of taking someone down a peg.

It's pathetic. Op made an affirmative statement about something they believed in and was promptly shit on by some cunt who brought nothing meaningful to the table themselves. What's worse is the troll initially was getting nothing but positive reinforcement so they could go and do it again. Are we still enjoying all the polarizing "LOL [insert group] BAD!" It really brings the community together.

You don't need to engage every person doing that shit... but for fucks sake stop upvoting it and reinforcing the behavior.

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