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[-] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 5 points 8 months ago

Ffs. Yes, supporting Russia's invasion is a step too far. However, there is a valid point to be made regarding the West's geopolitical maneuvers leading up to the invasion. NATO expanding east after promising not an inch further, supporting regime change in Ukraine, crossing more of Russia's "red lines," etc. Again, I want to stress that the invasion is morally reprehensible, but it's clear why they did it from a geopolitical standpoint.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Nobody is talking about why Russia did what they did and realistically there's nothing majorly wrong with NATO, it's an alliance of mostly EU countries to band together to prevent another world war and to protect themselves from "another Germany" and Russia has done absolutely nothing over the past 20+ years to assure people that they won't attack NATO EU countries. Quite the opposite in fact.

In any case, I have them parroting Russia narratives/misinformation here: https://lemmy.world/post/27314050 here: https://lemmy.world/post/27012640 and here https://lemmy.world/post/27288224 shows censoring of people even merely express that EU is also right to be concerned of Chinese and Russian militaries on their front lawn

[-] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago

I agree there's nothing inherently wrong with NATO, but I think you have some of the NATO basics wrong. NATO was very much an anti-Soviet and then anti-Russian alliance. There wouldn't be a NATO if there wasn't a Soviet Union, that's not up for debate. Russia wanted to join NATO at one point, ffs. Russia has done a lot fairly recently to show they won't attack NATO countries. For example, they attacked Georgia and then Ukraine to prevent them from joining NATO. Clearly they're afraid of NATO and don't want to fight it.

[-] Tortl@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago

You're very misinformed or just intentionally misrepresenting history here. If you think Russia was ever going to join nato in good faith even if allowed, you're a silly child.

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