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I believe antinatalism is a dire mistake, and the highest thing someone can aspire to be is a parent
Why?
Because I don't think there's a point to living without reproduction. Everything else is living a pointless life of minor hedonism and disappearing into oblivion at the end.
I don't think doing so is immoral, just pointless
Bringing a person into existence for your own entertainment is the ultimate form of pointless hedonism
There's no point in living at all. Reproduction doesn't change that.
So you believe that every person on the planet should be a parent? Is 7 billion people not enough for you?
No, we need more people. Developed countries are facing a demographic cliff that is very bad for us
I don't think more people is the answer. We're cancer on this planet.
So Nikola Tesla's life of scientific research was pointless?
Sure why not
Huh. So you enjoy being a mindless husk with the sole purpose of breeding the next generation.
I'm sorry you've been traumatized so much by life that you've given up on yourself as a person.
I don't know why you're so offended at someone having a different opinion than you
It's not the opinion so much as the perceived judgement. No one would bat an eye if your opinion was simply that you couldn't see your life having any meaning without kids. But you go on further to say that you don't see how the lives of people choosing not to have kids has any meaning. Consider one of those families with more than a dozen kids looking down on you for not having enough kids. Saying they don't understand how your life has any meaning when you could still be having babies.
Why would I care what a stranger thinks about me, and why do you?
If you didn't care what anyone thought, why did you post your opinion on the internet?
I'm calling the burn ward now
I'm not sure why you think I'm offended. But I feel you're still hurting and perceive this as an attack, so I apologize to you.
It's fine to give up. Take your time and try to heal. Even if you don't find value in your own life, raising your children is still very much meaningful as you say.
You called me a mindless husk and you don't think that's an attack? Get real, jabroni. My life is great, and that's WHY I want to have children. The only people I've seen who are anti-natalist usually justify it with "life sucks, why would I bring a child into this world?"
You say your life is great, yet call it pointless.
You also disparage Tesla's scientific pursuits and possibly those of every other scientist or person of intellect that dedicated themselves to the betterment of humanity and whose achievements made possible the current great life you seem to hedonistically enjoy.
Perhaps i misunderstood your words and you feel such a life is incomplete without the addition of children. If so, again, I apologize.
But from your previous posts all i understood is that you find nothing worth doing in life other than having children. And that screams outwards a complete lack of self worth that needs something to hang on to in order to find some kind of meaning in life.
I sincerely wish you a happy life with as many kids as you need.
You can enjoy pointless things. In fact it's quite easy to do so: most people do it all the time. Just because my life is comfortable doesn't mean it has a point yet. And just because I haven't found a point, that doesn't mean my life needs to be sad and depressing. It's easy to live a life of selfishness without caring about what comes after; it's basically the default way to live
There's opinion, and there is just pure stupidity.
I get this is an opinion thread, but you dumb.
Its a dumb opinion, but not invalid.
So the meaning of life is ... the continuation of life? Or to put it another way, life is the meaning of life. That seems rather tautological.
There's a difference between a point and a meaning
This doesn't help your argument.
There's all sorts of types of reproduction.
Take the reproduction of knowledge, for example. Say you have a person who never had kids, but dedicated their life's work to something like Project Gutenberg. They've ensured art and writing and understanding is reproduced for generations to come. Is that pointless?
I don't think life is 'less pointless' if you procreate. It's both very pointless, except for personal fulfilment. What should it matter if you follow a path that evolution laid out before you. With consciousness, there is no more reason to consider that path in my eyes, just do what feels right.