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Internet forums are disappearing because now everything is Reddit and Discord. And that's worrying. (www-xataka-com.translate.goog)

submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by tfm@europe.pub to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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What are we going to do about it?

Sorry for the Google Translate Link. An easy alternative is much appreciated.

Edit: thanks to @Xamrica@lemmy.dbzer0.com for this translation alternative: https://translate.kagi.com/translate/https://www.xataka.com/servicios/foros-internet-estan-desapareciendo-porque-ahora-todo-reddit-discord-eso-preocupante

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[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Or Matrix?

According to history:

Wait till it’s so enshittified it’s unusable, or…
If it reaches a critical mass… You can't. See: Facebook.

The Fediverse can adopt a few nice communities, but honestly bringing the larger population seems hopeless.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Wait till it’s so enshittified it’s unusable

Discord is going public soon, so start the timer...

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Discord is scary popular though, like Facebook popular. I am really scared the enshittification will stick hard, like it has for Facebook.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

they already forced ads on discord.

[-] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

RIP D&D campaign's chat service 😬

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, so many projects and companies using Discord for support seemed like such a bad idea.

[-] lena@gregtech.eu 8 points 2 weeks ago

Or Matrix?

Element is a Matrix client

[-] tfm@europe.pub 5 points 2 weeks ago

larger population seems hopeless.

But what is the barrier? We have a functioning infrastructure. We need to solve the last piece of the puzzle.

People need an easy way to join!

Mastodon has already shown that this works. Even if they aren't as big as others yet, they still make up about two-thirds of the Fediverse. Now we need to replicate this for Lemmy, Pixelfed, and so on, and share our findings along the way.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

You mean drag them from platforms that have a vested interest in keeping them locked in and squashing competitors like the Fediverse?

In platforms that spend billions on engagement optimization algorithms, with the sole purpose of keeping users addicted, basically with government and business landscape backing?

Look, I’m optimistic about the Fediverse, this is a great refuge in the hellscape that is the internet. But you can’t make people want to change. I've learned this IRL, but see it with (for example) persecuted people continuing to use Twitter even though its owner basically has a gun to their heads. There’s a big gulf between being a fantastic refuge and taking the internet from Facebook and Google. Even if every phone on the planet had an easy button to switch to Fediverse alternatives in one click… many would not take it, and that’s an utter fantasy.

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

This pretty much. At some point one has to accept that the people who want to be saved can be saved, and those who don't, can't. We shouldn't (reasonably or not) waste ourselves for the latter in spite of the former.