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[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago

how much is a cup in non freedom units?

[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 14 points 1 week ago

Freedom units should be replaced with something like racist units or genocide units or orange units

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

The freedom was always sarcastic

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

soon enough it will be nazi units

[-] joel1974@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago
[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

So the metric units? Those were used by racists and genocidal tyrants throughout history.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Racism isn't a defining characteristic of all metric users though .

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

I didn't say it was. Just that has been quite popular with those types of defective people over the history of the use of the metric system.

The Imperial system has it's own special though.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

This entire argument is obviously ridiculous from both sides but the main difference between the metric system and the Imperial system in this context is that almost everyone uses the metric system while pretty much only the USA uses the Imperial system.

So the Imperial system can be blamed for any faults of the USA. But the opposite is ridiculous since that's the standard. That would be like blaming Hitler on legs.

And yes again, it's incredibly ridiculous to blame anything on a system of measurement but if you are gonna do it the Imperial system makes way more sense to blame.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Good thing the US doesn't use the Imperial measurement system then, (we use US Customary which is different than Imperial). That pretty much started to diverge by the end of the revolutionary War. And for your information, we are all looking for that same missing 10mm wrench and socket just like you guys are. We use the metric system all the bloody time. From soda pop and whisk(e)y to every food item in a grocery store to the Canyonaro pickups we drive are all metric. We just don't force it by law like the rest of the world.

The point was to make fun of any and all who think ANY measurement system is better than another or even matters at all. They all consist of made up units all thought up by random dudes long ago that enough other people thought were pretty skookum and decided to use.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Yes, I know that you use your own fucked up flavour of the Imperial system.

The metric system is objectively a better system which is why you guys use it when it actually matters (except the times you fuck up because you use two different systems, like with the climate orbiter.)

FYI: the metric system isn't really "made up". All SI base units are defined by physical constants. It's also a logical system while the Imperial system was dreamt up by some mad lad.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Those physical constants were randomly chosen. And they eventually chose a different physical standard only recently. And it STILL contains an error even after all these centuries because one of the original men sent to do the real world measurement cheated at his job and made up some of his measurements to avoid traversing some difficult terrain. So yes, it turns out it's as "made up" as much as any other system.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

I suggest you read up on how the metric system works since it's apparent that you don't know jack shit.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

I do know exactly how it works. As far as the error in the metric system, let me goggle that for the lazy and ignorant

I tend to use moon landing units.

[-] TheGreyGhost@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

239.59 ml

Edit: switched out the original number for the correct number

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Wow I had not even realised that this would actually be a well defined unit. I thought it was like "add a spoon of sugar" in recipes.

It happened a lot in our nation's history that folks would have relatively simple kitchens not equipped with scales or even a set of measuring cups, so eating vessels and utensils would be used. A lot of staple American baked goods like biscuits are really more about feeling the consistency of the dough than sticking to a recipe anyway, so laboratory precision is not necessary.

At some point the cup got codified as half a pint, or 8 fluid ounces, or slightly under 0.125L. A tablespoon is 1/2 of a fluid ounce and thus 1/16th of a cup. A teaspoon is 1/3 of a tablespoon.

It works out that tea- and tablespoons are ~ 4.928 and 14.786 mL respectively. The medicine industry, which actually does everything in metric and has for decades now, often writes dosing instructions in metric tea- or tablespoons of 5mL and 15mL respectively. For example, my bottle of Listerine mouthwash says in its instructions "swish 10mL (2 teapoonfuls) between your teeth for 30 seconds..."

Believe it or not we also know how long an inch is, too.

[-] exasperation@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

It happened a lot in our nation's history that folks would have relatively simple kitchens not equipped with scales or even a set of measuring cups

That's, like, every nation's history. Cooking has never required that much precision, especially home cooking. Even baking can be done by feel, with enough experience.

[-] sovereign@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Learning to use recipes and then learning you don't need them are the two most important parts of learning how to cook imo. The first time I make something I use a recipe every time after that I do not and just go by feel/vibes unless I am trying to make something authentic.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah I get why it makes sense to have recipes with "add about a cup of X", but it surprises me that someone decided to make it an official unit of an exactly defined amount

It boggles your mind that the units people were actually using became standardized?

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

not all cups are the same so why would anyone say "this is now the exact amount of a cup"?

The amount measured by a typical tea or coffee cup is approximately 1/2 US Pint, so when it comes time to codify it that's a reasonable place to put it.

Anything else you wish to artificially complicate?

[-] TheGreyGhost@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I just realized 59.15 ml is 1/4 of a cup while 1 cup is 239.59 ml

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Freedom units were imported from Britan.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

In liberté units.

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