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This American gets what you’re saying. I’m trying to figure out what I can do without ending up homeless.
So long as you get yours, right?
Staying housed is "getting yours"? Lmao, you're delusional. And this is coming from a homeless person. I do not begrudge people who do what they can while maintaining shelter in the dead of winter. Frozen corpses can't protest either, bud.
You're acting like this is the Russian Revolution or something, stop making exaggerated excuses and focus on what's happening in front of you. And as someone who has been homeless, you know as I know, you don't have as much to lose as others so why are you making excuses?
Wtf, so we are supposed to be homeless with kids in tow? Since when is I get mine the simple fact of having a roof over my head?
Because it doesn't guarantee a roof over theirs.
I understand the community-first perspective. I agree that we survive together or die together. But we also can’t pour from an empty cup. I can’t help others if I’m fighting to survive, forced to spend time hunting down food and water and a warm bed, which also takes time away from protesting and helping others.
Do you forsee yourself not fighting to survive later on then?
If American society as a whole devolves so much that I and everyone else are all fighting to survive together because we are all homeless, then society as a whole will look a lot different, structurally. I can’t speak to how resistance will look, in that case, because I don’t know what it will consist of. I imagine that we will have much better community support systems in place, since more will be needing them to survive.
First comes fodder, then morals. When will US libs understand that. How does it feel there, up on your high horse, telling the pedestrians to stop wearing leather boots they should be vegans?
Try calling for solidarity instead of attacking people for wanting what's due to every human by sole virtue of being human. Food, shelter, those things aren't wishes of someone trying to deny the same to others.
Like you do?
Yes. Like I did by telling you to do that instead of preaching from the pulpit, you're starting to get it.
And how does that make you feel? High and mighty, huh?
No. Stop projecting.
Says the projector.
Dude, straight up fuck you. The moment you voluntarily unhouse yourself for others you can open your mouth again and rejoin the adults in the conversation.
I did, from 2011-2015. I went on the road to protest, gave up everything, because I believe in something more important than myself.
Translation: I was a mooching dirtbag for four years and called it protesting.
Projection, much?
How did you pay for your gas on the road? How did you keep yourself fed? How did you keep from freezing to death? What were you protesting? How did it turn out? Tell us more.
Considering the warm reception of this thread, I don't feel anyone here is worth wasting that time on. I'm writing a book about my adventures you can pirate it when it comes out.
You've been wasting a lot of time here already. A little more won't hurt. Come on, big guy. Tell us all how it's done.
Don't you have children to protect?
Nope.
So go out and protest!
I already have/am. Is fascism over yet?
Nope. Guess you'll have to keep going out till it is! If you wont, who will?
My point is stop saying people aren't doing it when they are. Everywhere. Every single day.
Do you think Trump is trying to declare attacks on Tesla dealerships domestic terrorism because people are staying home on the couch?
You're acting like because we haven't seen instantaneous results, we must just all be doing nothing. If you have spent as much time protesting as you claim, you know that protest movements need to be long and sustained and also often need to gain momentum over time. You won't get a million people in the streets overnight.
Spoilers: They haven't.
Dude, I've been working on this at a local level, and being homeless in the US might as well be a fucking death sentence. It paints a target on you at almost every level of society and it's becoming increasingly impossible to escape. This is almost like shitting on someone for not wanting to get shot or get their family tortured.
These people did it - https://tribunemag.co.uk/2023/03/how-workers-won-the-weekend
All you're telling me is you're either too coward or don't believe in a better future enough.
Here's a bonus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Turner%27s_Rebellion -- If only these people thought like you, I wonder where we'd be.
You want to fight for freedom but without any risk? You can't have your cake and eat it too.
EDIT - What about these people? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/04/gaza-strip-protesters-received-bullet-wounds-to-ankles-medics-report Surely they have targets painted on their backs but protest anyway, and they have it much worse than Americans. Americans are cowards.
Look, I get that you're trying to rabble rouse. I think there's a lot of folks right now that are holding their breath to see if Trump is going to get distracted by some new stupid bullshit like he normally does.
The world has been holding their breaths for decades, when will you Americans stop drowning us all? You you you all you, fucking Americans amiright? You have it soooo bad awwwwww, hang on everybody keep waiting for things to get worse, Americans aren't coming up for air yet! No, i'm not rabble rousing, i'm pissed off at your American baby excuses, I swear I know 10 year olds that have more sense of accountability or responsibility.
idk what to tell you, my guy. The ruling class aggressively shit its pants when these labor wins were piling up, and we've had non-stop red scares, counter-intelligence ops, and right-wing propaganda ever since. What you're proposing, that everyone just get up and start the next great revolution because Trump is saying stuff, is a fairy tale; it's about as likely as my potted plant turning into an alligator. I'm very confident shit's going to fall apart quick if Trump does actually try to start a war with Canada, but until then, I don't think that it feels real enough to most folks to chance getting thrown in a private prison or turned into a predator drone video. When things destabilize, that's where there will be opportunities, but the only opportunities right now is getting smoked by the cops, getting scooped by the glowies, or doing something completely ineffectual and getting your teeth knocked in by the cops anyway.
Is that all you think is happening? Christ, you are hopeless.
It never does feel real, until it gets real. Plenty has been written and said on that subject, Americans continue to ignore that though for short term comforts and certainties.
What is the article this comment thread is on? It's already real, already happening, and here you are arguing that it's not.
Don't be a twat.
“Insults are the last refuge of a fool.”
"Being a twat is the last refuge of a twat."
Ok.