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curl https://some-url/ | sh

I see this all over the place nowadays, even in communities that, I would think, should be security conscious. How is that safe? What's stopping the downloaded script from wiping my home directory? If you use this, how can you feel comfortable?

I understand that we have the same problems with the installed application, even if it was downloaded and installed manually. But I feel the bar for making a mistake in a shell script is much lower than in whatever language the main application is written. Don't we have something better than "sh" for this? Something with less power to do harm?

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You have the option of piping it into a file instead, inspecting that file for yourself and then running it, or running it in some sandboxed environment. Ultimately though, if you are downloading software over the internet you have to place a certain amount of trust in the person your downloading the software from. Even if you're absolutely sure that the download script doesn't wipe your home directory, you're going to have to run the program at some point and it could just as easily wipe your home directory at that point instead.

[-] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 34 points 6 days ago

All the software I have is downloaded from the internet...

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You should try downloading the software from your mind brain, like us elite hackers do it. Just dump the binary from memory into a txt file and exe that shit, playa!

You should start getting it from CD-roms, that shit you can trust

[-] veroxii@aussie.zone 22 points 6 days ago

I got my software from these free USB sticks I found in the parking lot.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

It is kind of cool, when you've actually written your own software and use that. But realistically, I'm still getting the compiler from the internet...

[-] strongarm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

Steady on Buck Rogers, what is this, 2025!?

[-] cschreib@programming.dev 7 points 6 days ago

Indeed, looking at the content of the script before running it is what I do if there is no alternative. But some of these scripts are awfully complex, and manually parsing the odd bash stuff is a pain, when all I want to know is : 1) what URL are you downloading stuff from? 2) where are you going to install the stuff?

As for running the program, I would trust it more than a random deployment script. People usually place more emphasis on testing the former, not so much the latter.

this post was submitted on 13 Mar 2025
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