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[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

firefox is going through thier own enshittifcation down the line, they changed ther policy about data recently

[-] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 14 points 1 day ago

As I understand it that has more to do with covering their ass. They haven’t changed their practices.

[-] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

The fact that they think they need to cover their ass about selling user data is concerning enough.

[-] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago

Don’t take my word for it, you can read what they said about it here. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

[-] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I read that and I think it's a weak justification.

[-] knexcar@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I’ll care when Firefox loses ManifestV2 support.

I read about this too, and it worries me. Google has donated over a billion dollars to Mozilla over the years. That alone doesn't scare me so much as it's a blatant propaganda tool to deflect the antitrust sentiment that plagues them and will probably some day do its work of breaking them apart.

Fortunately, there are numerous open source forks. I am currently using Librewolf, a fork of firefox focused on privacy and anti-tracking, and it has worked without a hitch. A couple of my extensions have required fiddling with to get right but it's part of life if you care about these things.

[-] dan@upvote.au 9 points 1 day ago

They changed the wording of their policy for legal reasons. They haven't actually changed what they do. They already updated the text of the policy to clarify.

[-] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

...The reason being that they can't legally claim they don't sell your data.

[-] dan@upvote.au 7 points 1 day ago

Yes, because the definition of "sell data" varies by jurisdiction, and they can't guarantee that their usage of ads (eg the default sites that appear on the new tab page) does not fall under the definition of "sell data" in some jurisdictions. In particular, California's CCPA is pretty strict and some use cases that aren't actually selling data still fall under its definition of "sell data".

[-] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

And they had this revelation and newfound sense of caution immediately after their main source of income was jeopardized? And they made this change at the exact same time they started forcing users to give them a worldwide commercial license to everything you enter through Firefox? Sure, Jan.

[-] dan@upvote.au 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

forcing users to give them a worldwide commercial license to everything you enter through Firefox?

That's not what they actually did, though. They revised the wording to clarify:

You give Mozilla the rights necessary to operate Firefox. This includes processing your data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice. It also includes a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license for the purpose of doing as you request with the content you input in Firefox. This does not give Mozilla any ownership in that content.

For example, if you type something into the address bar, they need to have the permission to take your content (whatever you've typed) and send it to a third party (a search engine) to get autocompletion results.

Here's the blog post that clarifies the changes: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/

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