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Summary

Carlos Slim’s telecom giant, América Móvil, canceled $22 billion in planned Starlink orders after Elon Musk insinuated Slim had ties to drug cartels.

The decision, made within hours of Musk’s tweet, costs Musk his main partner in 25 countries and shifts business to Chinese and European competitors, further reducing U.S. commercial influence.

Musk’s increasing political entanglements and conspiracy-laden posts are alienating key business partners and consumers, with potential ripple effects on Tesla sales.

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[-] gon@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

So? No billionaires at all are better than both cases. Bezos is evil too, any investment going towards him is terrible to. It's better than Elon, but all this is terrible. Also, Bezos is not trying to preserve the status quo, he's only trying to protect himself and his pockets, that's all.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Nowhere did I claim that billionaires are good. I’m saying which type are the most dangerous.

It’s like saying “which tiger is more dangerous, the hungry one or the hungry AND rabid one?” Obviously both are existential problems to us, but one is still worse the others.

[-] gon@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Nowhere did I claim that billionaires are good.

Of course, nor did I mean to imply you did so!

I do get your point, and, on the surface level, I agree. However, I think it's an inferior analysis of the situation.

Take your tiger metaphor; naturally, the rabid and hungry one is the most dangerous. Nevertheless, as you pointed out, they are both existential problems. I simply can't celebrate, be satisfied, or even be appeased by the knowledge that we're harbouring a hungry tiger, no matter what hungry and rabid tiger we may avoid by doing so. That's my point.

It does seem we're on the same page about this, to be honest... It's just that your initial reply seemed a little


how do I put it...


irrelevant? It's the Maxim of Quantity. We both agree that billionaires are fundamentally problematic, then why did you go and specify which ones are worse?


  1. "Here's a bowl of cereal. By the way, I didn't piss in it."

Yeah... I get that, but why would you even bring that up? Why say that? It doesn't imply that you're someone that pisses in cereal, but it does give off that feeling.

  1. "Billionaires are bad. By the way, that kind of billionaire is worse."

Yeah... I get that, but why would you even bring that up? Why say that? It doesn't imply that you're someone that thinks billionaires are good, but it does give off that feeling.


Do you pick up what I'm putting down?!

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah we’re on the same page. The original context was buying Kuiper internet instead of Starlink, so choosing the least bad option seemed relevant to me.

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