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Gratitude for open social media alternatives. (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 day ago by jef@lemm.ee to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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A while ago I started loosing hope in the internet, even before ai it was mostly bots, and copy and paste articles. Everything is exponentially getting more and more malicious, with algorithms made to suck you in with obviously no care for the human user, just make stock go up, and make comically evil board members happy.

Not enough people are talking about what lemmy and bluesky have done, I'm not that tech savvy but from what I've understand their decentralized nature makes people always in control as opposed to one company.

Going on these sites brings me back to the earlier days of the internet, where it felt like interacting with real people, posting to an actual community, rather than being in one of those dystopian movies with slurm drinks and infinite amount of trash being pumped out by bots, to get as many views for monetization/outreach which is what pretty much all major social medias feel today.

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[-] LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

True, Fediverse gives us freedom. Glad, that You enjoy it.

Btw, Bluesky isn't really decentralized, but it's still better than X. Freer alternative would be Mastodon. Thankfully Lemmy is decentralized, and thanks to ActivityPub, from here you can interact with Mastodon posts, or other compatible fediverse platforms.

[-] jef@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Don't they have that thing where you can turn your account into a self hosted website? Maybe decentralized wasn't the best word, I mean users don't have to rely on the website staying up / moderators not going mad or stuff like that.

[-] kat@orbi.camp 15 points 1 day ago

Well, if bluesky official site goes down, it all goes down.

Only account data can be self hosted but at the end, it all centers around one server to make the full magic happen.

[-] jef@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Oh, ok, thanks for the correction.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah they tried really hard to make people think it would be federated to get even the slightly more tech savvy people onto bluesky by basing their development on the same protocol as the properly federated mastodon. Turns out it was just a way to get more users and its actually entirely centralized in all practical ways. Bluesky is textbook "embrace, extend, extinguish"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

[-] fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can do that here too with WordPress. It's got a Fediverse connector. Many blogs will post on Masto that way. I'm surprised they haven't made it here yet.

[-] Sl00k@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

You're actually right they are decentralized and your account would continue existing if you had your own PDS and either you or someone else was running a relay.

The OP above is essentially saying what if the relay goes down, but anyone can run a relay it just costs a few hundred a month and there's little reason to do so (right now).

Usually people on this side of the Fediverse aren't in the know on the AT Proto inner workings.

One thing you can point out is protocol ownership, Bluesky owns the AT Proto protocol and can change it however they like while ActivityPub is a W3C ownership so a lot more resilient (albeit slower changes)