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[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago

Thanks for the summary. What I think is important to note is that in Russia's version of Project 2025 (published in 1997) the author had already announced it:

The United Kingdom, merely described as an "extraterritorial floating base of the U.S.", should be cut off from the European Union.

The book also states plans for Germany and France that are interesting in the light of recent events:

Germany should be offered the de facto political dominance over most Protestant and Catholic states located within Central and Eastern Europe

France should be encouraged to form a bloc with Germany, as they both have a "firm anti-Atlanticist tradition".

Bottom line is Brits aren't more naive, nationalistic or what have you than the rest of us, we've just been assigned different roles by Moscow.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I think we are more prone to nationalism. We fundamentally have a moat between us and the rest of Europe. Our empire also wasn't collapsed. Instead it morphed (under threat of collapse) into the commonwealth. That left us with a lot more soft power than would otherwise expected. There's also a lot more nostalgia for the "good old days" than France or Germany seem to have.

It made us an easier target to manipulate.

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There's also a lot more nostalgia for the "good old days" than France or Germany seem to have.

There definitely was at the time but we've caught up since. Even in Germany despite what the "good old days" refer to here. The specific rhetoric varies between countries but ultimately this is just what happens when you rally morons and make them feel like they understand politics no matter the place.

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