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[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 29 points 1 year ago

Yeah let's instead install a massive bloated shit project that the original developers left years ago and the maintainers don't know heads from tails of the codebase because it's too massive to maintain, with enough dependencies to make even a small child think he's independent by comparison.

All so that we can, uh, synchronize a markdown text file across 3 computers.

These projects exist so that we don't all have to re-invent the wheel every single time we need something simple. They have a purpose, even if they're not pushing the envelope. I've developed a bunch of software to do extremely simple things for myself because all the existing options are massive and bloated and do a million more things than I need.

I'm sure your projects look impressive on your resumé, though.

[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah let’s instead install a massive bloated shit project that the original developers left years ago and the maintainers don’t know heads from tails of the code base because it’s too massive to maintain

So much this. I recently had OneDev recommended to me as a forgejo alternative. I was told that it was "very lightweight." Intrigued I tried it out. It fuckin' runs java and is resource heavy as fuck. Just sitting idle it consumes almost 13% of VPS RAM: http://i.xno.dev/u/SGXxO2.png

[-] BlueBockser@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You still have 63% RAM available in that screenshot, there are zero problems with Java using 13% RAM. It's the same as the tired old trope of "ChRoMe Is EaTiNg My MeMoRy". Unused memory is wasted memory if it can be used for caching instead, so unless you're running out of available memory, there is no problem.

Also, the JVM has a lot of options for configuring its various caches as well as when it allocates or releases memory. Maybe take a look at that first.

Edit: Apparently people don't want to hear this but don't have any actual arguments to reply with. Sorry to ruin your "JaVa BaD" party.

[-] TrumpetX@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sad that you're downvoted for being right.

Java apps can be memory hogs, but anything else can be too. The jvm is exceptionally performant for persistently running apps.

[-] Opeth@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Why have RAM when you're not gonna use it? The JVM is pretty efficient

[-] jonathan@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

I don't know what you're running there mate, Forgejo is a golang app.

[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Forejo isn't an "app." It's a for-profit fork of Gitea... It's a hosted git solution. Quite a bit more than "an app."

[-] jonathan@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 year ago

The fuck is Forejo. I'm running a personal Forgejo instance and have contributed to the project. It is not for-profit.

[-] uranibaba@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I would assume it is OneDev, as the previous poster tried it as an alternative to Forgejo.

[-] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Not to be that guy, but 12% of 8G isn’t even close to ”heavy as fuck” for a CI/CD and collaboration suite that seems aimed at enterprise users.

You can also tweak how much memory you’d like the jvm to grab with ’-Xms100m’. Any defaults are most likely aimed at much larger deployments than yours.

But yes, Java is a disease.

[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Not to be that guy, but 12% of 8G isn’t even close to ”heavy as fuck” [...] CI/CD and collaboration suite that seems aimed at enterprise users.

It's not being used for CI/CD, so it's a webui for git. It absolutely is heavy as fuck for just sitting there.

[-] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Just going off the marketing here:

Git server with CI/CD, kanban, and packages.

From the looks of it, they also seem to bundle the vscode server and a bunch of other stuff. I’m actually kinda surprised they do it with only 1G of RAM.

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

Sweet color scheme, what's the name?

[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Application is bashtop. Terminal theme is gruvbox.

[-] kionite231@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I think it's Gruvbox but I could be wrong

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And there's a difference between utilitarian and idiotic as well. The fact you can't tell the difference is a "you" problem, friend.

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 12 points 1 year ago

Can you explain the difference to me such that my feeble mind may understand?

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Doesn't seem so.

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