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[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 28 points 2 days ago

Yeah let's instead install a massive bloated shit project that the original developers left years ago and the maintainers don't know heads from tails of the codebase because it's too massive to maintain, with enough dependencies to make even a small child think he's independent by comparison.

All so that we can, uh, synchronize a markdown text file across 3 computers.

These projects exist so that we don't all have to re-invent the wheel every single time we need something simple. They have a purpose, even if they're not pushing the envelope. I've developed a bunch of software to do extremely simple things for myself because all the existing options are massive and bloated and do a million more things than I need.

I'm sure your projects look impressive on your resumé, though.

[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

Yeah let’s instead install a massive bloated shit project that the original developers left years ago and the maintainers don’t know heads from tails of the code base because it’s too massive to maintain

So much this. I recently had OneDev recommended to me as a forgejo alternative. I was told that it was "very lightweight." Intrigued I tried it out. It fuckin' runs java and is resource heavy as fuck. Just sitting idle it consumes almost 13% of VPS RAM: http://i.xno.dev/u/SGXxO2.png

[-] BlueBockser@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You still have 63% RAM available in that screenshot, there are zero problems with Java using 13% RAM. It's the same as the tired old trope of "ChRoMe Is EaTiNg My MeMoRy". Unused memory is wasted memory if it can be used for caching instead, so unless you're running out of available memory, there is no problem.

Also, the JVM has a lot of options for configuring its various caches as well as when it allocates or releases memory. Maybe take a look at that first.

Edit: Apparently people don't want to hear this but don't have any actual arguments to reply with. Sorry to ruin your "JaVa BaD" party.

[-] TrumpetX@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sad that you're downvoted for being right.

Java apps can be memory hogs, but anything else can be too. The jvm is exceptionally performant for persistently running apps.

[-] Opeth@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah. Why have RAM when you're not gonna use it? The JVM is pretty efficient

[-] jonathan@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

I don't know what you're running there mate, Forgejo is a golang app.

[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Forejo isn't an "app." It's a for-profit fork of Gitea... It's a hosted git solution. Quite a bit more than "an app."

[-] jonathan@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 days ago

The fuck is Forejo. I'm running a personal Forgejo instance and have contributed to the project. It is not for-profit.

[-] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Not to be that guy, but 12% of 8G isn’t even close to ”heavy as fuck” for a CI/CD and collaboration suite that seems aimed at enterprise users.

You can also tweak how much memory you’d like the jvm to grab with ’-Xms100m’. Any defaults are most likely aimed at much larger deployments than yours.

But yes, Java is a disease.

[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

Not to be that guy, but 12% of 8G isn’t even close to ”heavy as fuck” [...] CI/CD and collaboration suite that seems aimed at enterprise users.

It's not being used for CI/CD, so it's a webui for git. It absolutely is heavy as fuck for just sitting there.

[-] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Just going off the marketing here:

Git server with CI/CD, kanban, and packages.

From the looks of it, they also seem to bundle the vscode server and a bunch of other stuff. I’m actually kinda surprised they do it with only 1G of RAM.

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Sweet color scheme, what's the name?

[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Application is bashtop. Terminal theme is gruvbox.

[-] kionite231@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

I think it's Gruvbox but I could be wrong

[-] monogram@feddit.nl 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don’t know if you’ve looked at the code but it is written in plain js with express.

That node_modules folder is running donuts around your argument at this point.

Were it written in rust or golang it would have been a different story

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 2 days ago

I only looked at dumpdrop and it seemed fine, to me. Compared to other similar projects which are 10 times as large and provide essentially the same functionality. The world of web-based file-uploading solutions is fucked.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

And there's a difference between utilitarian and idiotic as well. The fact you can't tell the difference is a "you" problem, friend.

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 12 points 2 days ago

Can you explain the difference to me such that my feeble mind may understand?

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Doesn't seem so.

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