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I'm generally in support of this. The car allows for more freedom in certain conditions, though:
Someone addressed your first point. But the second two are only true when your city is so spread out to make room for huge roads and parking lots between everything. Not to mention zoning laws that make it illegal to build denser housing, or to build a grocery store near where people live.
Id rather be in a tram on rails in snowy conditions than in a private vehicle thats subject to slippery conditions and other vehicles hitting it. The tram if hit often has more mass and survives the hit better than a sedan would.
The rail transport is always the safest option, barring staying at home in the first place.
Me too. The post is about bicycles though
This comment thread is about how cars shield you from the weather. I'd also rather tram part way and bike the rest if the conditions are nasty out.
I used to live steps from an LRT station. It was amazing. Didn't even need to bike because the LRT took me everywhere I needed to go in the city! (Well, I also had the option of walking where the LRT didn't go, lol)
That's all definitely true! Sometimes people just live in areas that weren't designed well, or they live in a different place than where they work by preference or availability.
If someone normally cycles to work in 20 minutes, it might be worthwhile to have a car available as a backup for days that are extra hot or extra blizzardy.
Even if someones neighborhood wasn't designed well, changing zoning laws to allow for more density may make it more viable to put transit there. Then this hypothetical person's normally 20 minute cycle could become a 5 minute walk + 10 minute tram ride on extra hot or extra blizzardy days.
Yeah, definitely. The post was about bicycle vs. car though, so that's what my comment was based on. When we add public transit into the equation, it becomes a bigger and more wholesome picture.
The majority of physical disabilities prevent people from driving, resulting in a loss of mobility and freedom when they do not have viable alternatives. Many people who do not bike for transport and do not talk to people who bike for transport see a handicap parking spot and assume that everybody with a handicap drives.
People cycling and using public transit free up road space for the minority of people with handicaps who drive. I know two utilitarian cyclists with disabilities who cannot drive but use a bicycle as their primary means of transportation.
Wear a jacket. Many of us go for walks in extreme weather. There are very cold and hot countries all over the world that have high rates of bicycle usage for transport. The problem usually lies in cities designing and maintaining their roads in a hostile way to all forms of transportation other than bicycles in the winter. Look at Montreal and Oulu for counter-examples. Even the Netherlands gets constant rain.
This is a great video on the topic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhx-26GfCBU
See above
Are there many physical handicaps that prevent people from driving, but not from riding a bike?
As for the extreme weather, I said "Can be more easily/comfortably used in extreme weather"
The OP was asking why the car is a symbol for freedom and not the bicycle, so I provided some possible explanations.