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[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 127 points 5 days ago

at the core of every genocide is some sickeningly arbitrary difference that not even the people enacting the genocide can fully discern. Palestinians are indigenous to the Levant, just like Jews were. they just survived the ethnic cleansing enacted by the romans differently. similarly by both russia, and many Ukrainians telling of the origins of the rus, they originated from Kyiv. back in the 1930s and 40s, the Germans had to invent more and more arbitrary ways to identify Jews because since resettlement in Galitsye (today divided between Germany, Chzechia, Poland, russia, and Ukraine) Jews integrated themselves into the indigenous population (in large part thanks to unprecedented religious tolerance on behalf of the people of Galitsye and later Poland) meaning telling who was and wasn't Jewish was hard to impossible for the German officers responsible for deciding who to kill.

my point is this: arbitrarily killing Palestinians is antisemitic. it runs even a little deeper than simply "Palestinians are semitic, just like me" given that their cultural traditions are shared. it gets into violence against my sister is violence against me. harm against Palestinians is harm against Jews. once there are no more identifiably Palestinian people left to kill, next will come the Jews who aren't identifiably non-Palestinian enough. and who decides who that is? where does the killing stop?

the best way to avoid being killed in a genocide is to prevent genocide from happening. the second best way is to bring ongoing genocides to an end. unfortunately, it is falling to us, the populace, to defend ourselves from the military apparatus of the imperial powers of the globe. a great battle is about to unfold between the forces of good, evil, and indifference, just as it has approximately every 80 years throughout history. part of our aim in thi; battle is to preserve our message that we were here. that there was good in the world even at its worst.

i hope you've read a diary of a young girl by anne frank, and understand its gravity. it breaks my heart that a 13 year old saw all of what i'm seeing and chose to make her death meaningful as a story that passes this tale of resistance and kindness in the face of atrocity to me, but the point is that her voice made it through. so please, don't put her pain to waste. start taking actions you think 80 years from now someone who learns what you did during this time will be proud of, and find inspiring. even if it's something as simple as documenting the things you see, or growing food to share with your neighbors.

do what our ancestors did when faced with these times, plant trees the shade of which your physical body will never rest under

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago

Careful. Zionists get very sad if you mention that Arabs are Semites.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 35 points 5 days ago

Fuck the Zionists. FUCK THE ZIONISTS. Zionism is anti-semitic and not just because it's anti-arab. It's fuckin' anti-jewish.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago
[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 13 points 5 days ago

No I know. But I need the Zionists in the back to hear I said FUCK THE ZIONISTS.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 5 points 4 days ago

Many Palestinians are/were Jewish.

Palestinians is antisemitic. it runs even a little deeper than simply “Palestinians are semitic

Antisemitism only means hatred of Jews and nothing else. Trying to water the term down like you’re doing is extremely bad faith and usually done to give cover to antisemites.

That said, yes, many Palestinians have Jewish ancestors.

once there are no more identifiably Palestinian people left to kill, next will come the Jews

That’s some shizo level rambling.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 29 points 5 days ago

Don't tell me how to interface with hatred against my Jewish identity that I have to face every day. Don't tell me to look at the hate perpetrated in my name against my sisters and not to speak against it, especially when the hatred is deranged and twisted and harms me as well. You're welcome to disagree with me that our two people's are intrinsically linked to each other by history and culture, which apparently you do, but this is not a bad faith argument. This is something I believe with my entire heart. Jews and Palestinians are one people. Zionism is an act of hate against both.

You’re welcome to disagree with me that our two people’s are intrinsically linked to each other by history and culture

I agree with that part.

Your abuse of the word antisemitism is what I take issue with.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 17 points 4 days ago

You gonna tell us you can’t be a Nazi unless you’re in 1940’s Germany sieg heiling to Hitler next? lol

Fucking dumb fuck pedants.

[-] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Isn't it funny what end of this quote Israel is on these days

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Palestinians is antisemitic. it runs even a little deeper than simply “Palestinians are semitic

Antisemitism only means hatred of Jews and nothing else. Trying to water the term down like you’re doing is extremely bad faith and usually done to give cover to antisemites.

That said, yes, many Palestinians have Jewish ancestors.

once there are no more identifiably Palestinian people left to kill, next will come the Jews

That’s some shizo level rambling.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 15 points 4 days ago

Netanyahu is an antisemite. He says Judaism is the same thing as genocide, and that's an anti-jewish stereotype.

Please source that quote.

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