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I know I have small hands but c'mon. Flagship phones these days are strait up small tablets, not even what we'd have called on phablets 15 years ago.

I know it's what people buy, but I'm still sad that if I want a phone that small then I have to deal with camera and display a couple gens old

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[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Flagship means the best of the best, of course it’s gonna be large and fancy lmfao.

There’s plenty of phones that fit your niche, but it’s like expecting a cigar boat to be the flagship of the navy dude lol. Gotta temper yourself to realistic expectations, especially when the term “flagship” is thrown out.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This makes no sense. Large doesn't mean fancy. Back in the day, making the phone smaller was fancy.

The minimal company's flagship phone is a minimal phone. It's their signature phone. The flagship was the ship that had the ranking officer/admiral on it, representing the fleet. Apple, google etc all decided their flagship phone would be huge.

OP wants more flagship phones, that is the type of phone the company markets as its main phone, to be smaller. It has little to do with the best but how phones are used. So tell him "tough luck because most people use their phones as a TV so they will remain big". It's not because that's a better phone.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This makes no sense. Large doesn't mean fancy. Back in the day, making the phone smaller was fancy.

Which has nothing to do with the the historical term and already established convention of the term “flagship”, no one has ever called their compact phone a flagship, got any proof to back that asinine claim up?

The minimal company's flagship phone is a minimal phone. It's their signature phone. The flagship was the ship that had the ranking officer/admiral on it, representing the fleet. Apple, google etc all decided their flagship phone would be huge.

If it’s not the fanciest and most expensive, then by definition and original convention, it’s no longer a flagship phone.

Terms have specific uses, let’s not dilute them to make ourselves feel better. Language IS fluid, but when people are obstinate to already preestablished conventions… a small phone will never by definition eve be considered a flagship, but bloviate if you want.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Terms have specific uses, let’s not dilute them to make ourselves feel better. Language IS fluid, but when people are obstinate to already preestablished conventions

Ok there why didn't you bother opening a dictionary or googling it.

noun

the ship in a fleet which carries the commanding admiral.

the best or most important thing owned or produced by a particular organization.

He's just saying most phones companies (of all sizes) are making are big phones. Get over yourself

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So the smallest and worst ship would be the flagship? That’s the defence? Lmfao because that makes total sense dude…. And how is that supposed to defend what a flagship is?

How does that mean the smallest and most compact? As my original comment stated, that’s like claiming a cigar boat is the flagship, which no navy would do even if they were making smaller boats. Their largest and fanciest, would STILL be the flagship of the fleet….

I “did read a dictionary”, which is maybe why I’m speaking? OP fucked up what a flagship is meant to be. Atleast I’m not the one making up new definitions to defend my asinine defence. How does the definition support your argument? It would STILL mean the best and most resourceful unit. Which wouldn’t be the smallest…..

the finest, largest, or most important one of a group of things (such as products, stores, etc.)  —often used before another noun

Other definitions include “largest” why did you include the one that doesn’t…?

is the lead ship in a fleet of vessels, typically the first, largest, fastest, most heavily armed, or best known.

Which how is that the smallest and most compact…? That’s literally contradicting the established conventions dude lmfao. But again, bloviate about how you don’t understand language and want to make it what you want I guess…. Flagship has established conventions, and OP is asking for the opposite. Full stop.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Each fleet has its flagship, all companies have flagships. Yes the best phone of each company is their flagship. Flagship phones isn't limited to some arbitrary sized companies.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And no phone manufacturer has ever called their small phones their flagships, so for to OP to say they miss them, is them not actually knowing what the term is.

Can you provide an example of a phone that fits OPs definition as being sold as a “flagship”? Because OPs arguing for something that’s never been done before.

Flagships CAN be small, but it’s never been done in history before, still waiting for an example, I’ve asked twice now. Because OPs barking up the wrong tree. That’s the issue here.

You’re making this argument, while not providing anything to support it, I’ve even asked for a source to prove your point, all you’ve done is provide a definition that i then provided multiple that directly contradict the one you provided.

Flagship phones isn't limited to some arbitrary sized companies.

In the history of the term, it’s never been a cigar boat dude…. It’s always the largest and fanciest, not the smallest and fanciest. Prove it dude. Step up or fuck off.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Minimal company's flagship phone is the minimal phone

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Lol who said I wanted "the smallest and most compact"

You've lost the plot here, take the L

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Does “fit in your hand” not mean small and compact?

I’m not the one using the term flagship to mean a non flagship phone. You’re trying to change established definitions and conventions.

You want a fancy small phone, no phone manufacturer has ever called a phone that fits that description as a “flagship” so to say you miss the. Is just straight up bullshit and you being an idiot and not using established definitions correctly.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

Not only is that laughably not true

But even if it was true, it wouldn't mean anything because being a flagship phone isn't about size, it's about showing off your tech.

But like I said, I don't have to get hypothetical, because phones this big weren't considered flagships in the past, they were considered "notes" and "tabs"

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

Best doesn't have to mean biggest.

I want all the fanciest best shit, and I want it to actually fit in my hand

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

So you don’t want a flagship, you want a small compact phone with all the fixings. That would no longer be the flagship anymore by using established conventions.

Flagship has specific meanings and you’re ignoring them to bitch and moan.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Lol everyone disagrees with you about what the conventional meaning is. It sounds a lot like you're the one who is ignoring definitions to bitch and moan 👋

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

??? Multiple people have told you the same thing…..

Sounds like you don’t want to admit that you fucked up.

It sounds a lot like you're the one who is ignoring definitions to bitch and moan 👋

Well sounds is a lot different than being factually incorrect and obtuse like you….

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Lol you made up an argument, pretended I said it, and got mad when I corrected you.

You can bring a mule to the comment section, but you can't make him read the thread.

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