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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

EDIT: Not reading any of the replies, so enjoy your circle jerk.

Use the Brave browser and you won't get any ads. Glorious.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

EDIT: Not reading any of the replies, so enjoy your circle jerk.

That's what I do as well when mozillatards begin questioning my browser choice, thinking they're much better person than I am. Hope they enjoy their dying browser.

[-] otto@sh.itjust.works 21 points 7 hours ago

Then you only have to endure the ignominy of using a browser from a homophobic anti-vaxxer

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

A bad person can create a good product. It's that simple.

Also, I love that you're self-righteously typing this out on a computer produced by slave labor, likely involving kids.

You're better than me for sure.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

A bad person can create a good product sure, doesn't mean we need to support it.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

I don't even think he's that bad. The worst thing he did was create JavaScript, which is largely fixed now, and the second worst is donate to an anti-LGBT group with his own money. As CEO of Mozilla, he led a very diverse group, diverse enough to kick him out once they found out about his donation.

I personally wish he was back at Mozilla instead of the nonsense leaders they've had since he left. I certainly don't agree with his political views, but he built a great organization and I think Mozilla would be in a better place with him at the helm.

I don't use Brave as my main browser because I think Firefox is still worth supporting as an independent browser engine, but Brave is my backup if I need a chromium browser.

[-] otto@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

There’s no slave labor (nor children) involved in producing an iPhone. Unless you completely twist the meaning of the word “slave“ to mean something completely different than what it really means. Of course, unless you have proof that child slaves built my iPhone. I’m pretty sure you don’t.

As for criticizing self-righteousness, what the hell do you call your entire comment but self-righteous whataboutim?

A bad person can create a good product. It's that simple.

It’s really not, though. Using their “good product“ ends up supporting the bad person. Most people aren’t OK with that.

[-] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Not OP, but your smart phone may not have been assembled with child labor, but some of the components/minerals used in its construction have been tied to child labor in the past.

Most people aren’t OK with that.

What evidence can you provide to support this, or is this simply your opinion?

[-] otto@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

What evidence can you provide to support this, or is this simply your opinion?

You first

[-] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah that's not how this works.

It’s really not, though. Using their “good product“ ends up supporting the bad person. Most people aren’t OK with that.

You made a statement, not I. Either you have evidence that most aren't OK with that, or you don't.

[-] otto@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Do you have amnesia? Because you definitely made a claim without providing evidence.

Not OP, but your smart phone may not have been assembled with child labor, but some of the components/minerals used in its construction have been tied to child labor in the past.

So go on then. Provide that evidence.

Of course, we’re not discussing iPhones of the past. The matter under discussion is specifically the phone I have now. Nice try with that strawman.

So go on. Provide evidence for your claim. And try to do it without any more logical fallacies. Other than the whataboutism that you wrote in here on, by the way.

Edit: trolls get blocked. I’m sure you’ll find some way to blame me for that too.

[-] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 1 points 1 hour ago

For the record, you are obviously a very negative and angry person. Which Lemmy seems to be a somewhat breeding ground for. I would encourage to spend more time offline.

https://money.cnn.com/2016/01/18/technology/smartphone-child-labor-cobalt/

And then

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/dec/16/apple-and-google-named-in-us-lawsuit-over-congolese-child-cobalt-mining-deaths

And then

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/us-court-absolves-top-tech-companies-congos-child/story?id=107839639

It's important to note that while several large tech companies were found not guilty of knowingly benefiting from child labor, their supply chain still benefitted from child labor; it simply couldn't be proven they had knowledge of what was happening.

Unfortunately, based on your previous response, I do not expect you to respond in a reasonable and mature manner, and have no desire to spend anymore time with someone like yourself. This is where we sort ways. Cheers mate.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago
[-] otto@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

It’s far more bearable without ads. Which can be blocked with most ad blockers in pretty much any other browser.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

I keep brave around pretty much just for this, because it's the easiest and most effective way on MacOS and iOS. And yet they still seem to be getting through sometimes lately.

[-] otto@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

The easiest and most effective way on macOS and iOS is to use the AdGuard extension for Safari. Or the U block origin extension in Firefox.

Neither come with the shame of using a browser developed by a homophobic anti-vaxxer.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Are you speaking from experience? Because I am. And those don’t work. This is right now, on iOS 18.3 on my iPhone 16 Pro.

[-] otto@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

They worked fine for me, but I don’t have all of those other extensions. AdGuard blocks all the ads on my device, including ads in YouTube videos.

Perhaps you should tweak your settings?

[-] Jubalong@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago
[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

It’s lower down in the list.

[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 7 hours ago

Never use a browser that aggressively advertise itself.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

Yup, it's my backup if I need a chromium browser for something. I just don't engage with the BAT nonsense and it's about as good as a chromium browser can get IMO.

Firefox w/ uBlock Origin is my main though, mostly because I want to support independent browser engines.

[-] TuxEnthusiast@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago

Ublock Origin + Firefox fork :3

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Also a good option, but I like that Brave's native adblocker works better without addons.

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