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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, in a private meeting inadvertently broadcast via a hot mic, warned that Donald Trump is seriously considering annexing Canada to secure its critical mineral resources.

Speaking to business and labor leaders, Trudeau claimed Trump’s administration is keenly aware of Canada’s resource wealth and sees annexation as a means to control it.

The comments, cut off after staff realized they were audible, underscore growing economic and political tensions.

He also stressed the need to diversify trade, noting, “Geography means we’re always going to both benefit and be challenged by trade with the United States.”

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[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

You're assuming Canadians will be immediately granted American citizenship and representation. Most likely, Canada would become a US territory like Guam or Puerto Rico, and kept that way for at least a generation.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I really don't think you can not give 41 million people the vote. Even trump when he says 51 state implies that it's a merger, to use that word.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

Why not? Denying 41 million a right to vote is a minor crime compared to forcefully conquering a peaceful neighbor that had been your closest neighbor. You're talking about a conflict that would easily kill 10% of the Canadian population, and likely level every major Canadian city, by the time the resistance efforts were finally stomped out.

He's saying they would make a 51st state eventually. The US's client state, Israel, denies the right to vote to nearly half of the population of the areas it controls. And we're their greatest ally. Why can't we deny the right to vote to 10% of the people in the territory we control? (Canada's population would represent about 10% of the combined US-Canadian territory's population.) Hell, we already disenfranchise millions due to felonies. And we disenfranchise millions through voter purges. And it was only in the 1960s that we stopped outright legally disenfranchising people due to skin color. You're seriously trying to argue that a fascist government would have moral qualms about disenfranchising large numbers of people!

The US could quite easily even go far as to say, "all Canadian citizens in the occupied territories are resident aliens and will not have the right to citizenship. Their kids will have citizenship, but no one who has ever held Canadian citizenship will get US voting rights." Every Canadian currently alive simply never gets to vote.

This is entirely possible. A right wing authoritarian government is not stupid. They're not going to immediately grant voting rights to people that will immediately vote them out of office. The only way they would do that is if they were confident that elections were so utterly corrupted that giving Canadian's American citizenship wouldn't change the outcome.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Since you seem to be taking this seriously, the only way to do this without becoming THE international pariah on the likes of North Korea is to do it peacefully.

If there is an invasion that comes to blows, the US will become person non grata on the international stage. Everyone will boycott everything from the US and to do with US. This is where you say but but but iraq, and that's where I say that was different. If the US invades an ally, its finished internationally. I know it's all rah rah USA number 1 but you need international support/trade/commerce/cooperation. It's not that people care that much about Canada, it's that no one will ever want to do or find the need to do business with the US again when there is no trust. They would have just showed that there is no such thing as cooperation with the US. It will be down to Russia and NK (and China will sell things, but China basically thinks they are above having friends/allies). So it you think a right wing authoritarian government is not stupid, they wouldn't do it, except "peacefully".

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

They would try.

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