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28-year-old Patriot Front member Jared Boyce plead guilty to possession of child pornography, and eight other related offenses, in a Utah court in April., according to local news media sources who publicized the guilty plea on Saturday.

Boyce will face up to 30 years in prison at the upcoming sentencing on Tuesday.

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[-] duckpunch@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Seems that he is a member, but you may be missing my point. This is the equivalent of a headline that reads - "Black man steals from store". The goal of writing such a headline is to make certain people click through and give it their attention.

He is also a Utah citizen, etc. Why would they choose to emphasize that one aspect? I'm not suggesting that Patriot Front members are more or less likely to plead guilty to possessing child pornography. I have no idea about that, but this article is subtly hinting that.

[-] jzzvid 26 points 1 year ago

Actually, it is extremely relevant to the story that this person was a member of a terrorist group that is for implementing theocracy, repealing the rights of women and queer folk, and accusing their political enemies pedophilia.

[-] duckpunch@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hm. Seems like the interface ate my comment? Let me try again.

Actually, it is extremely relevant to the story that this person was a member of a terrorist group that is for implementing theocracy, repealing the rights of women and queer folk, and accusing their political enemies pedophilia.

I don't see how that's relevant.

However, if your point is that this person is prominent enough (due to his misdeeds) to the point where stories like this are newsworthy, then sure, that's a fair point. I hadn't heard of him prior, but obviously it doesn't mean others hadn't.

[-] jzzvid 19 points 1 year ago

Only comments on account are defending a pedophile, white supremacist terror organization. Not sus at all.

[-] duckpunch@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, cause a mass migration from Reddit didn't just happen.

Not sure how you interpreted what I was saying as defending a pedophile.

Genuine question - which part of what I said did you interpret as me defending a pedophile?

[-] ikiru@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Please go back to reddit.

Actually, just please stop using the internet. You are insufferably obnoxious.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

If he is a member, how is that biased to comment on it?

Is it presenting facts that you don’t like?

[-] duckpunch@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

If he is a member, how is that biased to comment on it?

Seems like you're still missing my point? The article, as headlined, is designed get a rise and to get clicks.

Is it presenting facts that you don’t like?

More like presenting facts I don't care about. Would you care at all about this if it was one of my alternate headlines?

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

It’s pointing out facts.

Would you prefer the headline to be ‘Person pleads guilty to crime” or would that be to click baity too?

[-] duckpunch@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Getting closer to my point.

Person pleads guilty to crime

This is a pointless headline that no one cares about. It would be extremely not click-baity to the point that it's not newsworthy.

When I'm referring to bias I'm also talking about what is and isn't deemed newsworthy.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Maybe we should run all article headlines past you first so you can give your opinions on it.

[-] duckpunch@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

¯\(ツ)

Or the news outlets could do a better job picking what to report on.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I think calling out pedophile Nazis is probably the nicest thing that should be done to them, but that’s just me.

[-] duckpunch@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I can agree with that.

The question is whether it's a news organization's job to amplify that. I don't really know the answer to that, but it really does seem irresponsible given all the other things that can be reported on.

You don’t think it’s responsible for a news organization to call a pedophile Nazi a pedophile Nazi?

You do know news organizations can report multiple things at once right?

[-] duckpunch@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

You don’t think it’s responsible for a news organization to call a pedophile Nazi a pedophile Nazi?

Depends on how prominent that pedophile nazi is. But yeah, I think there's a line where it becomes kinda pointless noise. <rando nobody nazi> is a <bad thing> is a dumb story to report on, IMO.

You do know news organizations can report multiple things at once right?

Obviously.

[-] keeb420@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

So why are you defending patriot front so hard here? Who cares if a bunch of traitors also looks like pedophiles.

[-] duckpunch@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So why are you defending patriot front so hard here?

When did I do that?

[-] keeb420@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

You're trying to link this to anything but patriot front.

[-] duckpunch@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I was originally trying to unlink it from everything actually.

But yeah, I suppose that's a fair point. I could see why you would think that even though it wasn't my intention.

My original point is still that it seems click-baity. That is, I don't see how knowing this bit of info helps me make any decisions in my life. Seems pretty sensational and the guy seems like a nobody.

OTOH, I can see how it could drive clicks and engagement (see comment section here).

[-] TootSweet@latte.isnot.coffee 9 points 1 year ago

Are you defending Patriot Front?

Not rhetorical. Genuinely confused.

[-] duckpunch@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Am not. By all accounts, they seem to be an awful group.

[-] Madusch@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Being black is not a choice. Being a Patriot Front member is.

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