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submitted 1 week ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

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In a virtual speech at the World Economic Forum, Trump suggested Canada could become a U.S. state to avoid his proposed tariffs on imports.

The remark elicited gasps from the audience.

Trump claimed the U.S. does not need Canadian lumber, energy, or vehicles, vastly overstating the trade deficit between the two nations.

He reiterated his intention to impose tariffs, potentially as high as 25%, on imports from Canada and Mexico starting February 1.

Economists warn such tariffs would raise prices for U.S. consumers.

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[-] r0ertel@lemmy.world 130 points 1 week ago

I'm going to keep posting this every time I see a reference to US tariffs against Canada.

https://pluralistic.net/2025/01/15/beauty-eh/

The TL;DR is that tariffs would violate the NAFTA / USMCA treaty in which Canada agreed to respect US copyright law in exchange for free trade. No free trade? Canada doesn't need to respect US copyright any longer and can become a flourishing economy of products to compete with US products that are massively overpriced. Think printer ink and other stuff.

[-] Paragone@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

You're misunderstanding the situation, then, sorry..

Trump isn't rational, he is narcissistic-machiavellian-sociopathic.

IF Canada retaliates like that, THEN Trump may well declare war against Canada.

They would only need to drop a single large conventional-bomb on Ottawa, & then claim Canada as their "manifest destiny", declaring all Canadians to be "illegal aliens & criminals", & their "problem" would be "fixed".

He may not have the guts to do that this-week, but he is progressing psychologically, & the end-point of that progression, about 4y in our future, is as the most-murderous-dictator-on-the-planet.

He will be the complete-set: narcissistic, machiavellian, psychopathic, nihilist, sadist, systemically-dishonest, & hate, before the transformation is complete.

Tread carefully, when one is near a heavily-armed psychiatrically-defective giant, eh?

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[-] r0ertel@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Sometimes I think you're right. Other times I think that couldn't possibly be true.

I've studied many of the bigger wars and they've all mostly have been started by far less severe events. It's scary that one person could wield all that power, unchecked and unaccountable.

It sounds like it's time to build a bunker.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 week ago

Sweet. Host all pirate sites in Canada.

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

Idk if it's just for individuals, but our ISPs generally don't care about pirating already. I use a VPN to pirate here but just set to another city in Canada. I only even do that because I run jellyfin and have terabytes of downloads a month.

Worst case scenario is the ISP sends you a notice that the media companies are mad, but that's the end of it. They won't pursue anything further because they don't care

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

It’s not illegal to download something, it’s illegal to host something (seeding)

ISPs are compelled to notify you of copyright notices but they can’t hand your information over so you can only get caught if you respond

[-] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

And even if you are dumb enough to respond to one of those emails, the liability is limited to something $50 per title. So it's not worth the money to pay a lawyer to go after anyone. They will however try to trick you into a private settlement.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

No no no, you must charge every user with willful commercial infringement and penalize them $250,000 per violation. It is the American way!

[-] Oaksey@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Not pirated, works no longer covered by copyright in Canada.

[-] r0ertel@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I was thinking to host pirate sites of US movies, software, etc. Get the US companies to tell the orange buffoon to behave or better yet, move the companies to Canada.

I really like the article's reference to manufacturing US DMCA-breaking technologies and forcing devices to host app stores in Canada where the government can declare the 30% Apple tax illegal.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

That's amazing. He's going to absolutely tank the US economy in his first financial quarter of his term.

[-] runeko@programming.dev 26 points 1 week ago

Yes, please, Canadian produced pharmaceuticals + 15% tariff = an order of magnitude cheaper than what we can buy in the States.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

That's why buying drugs across the border is specifically illegal. Can't have us buying our medicine at a fair value.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

The TL;DR is that tariffs would violate the NAFTA / USMCA treat

The treaty that Trump himself negotiated and agreed to.

That's the treaty he is calling a "bad deal" and threatening to violate.

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