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Even admitting Italy has ever been freed from f4asc1sm after 1945 (spoiler: it wasn't), the pinnacle was reached in 2022 when the current far-right government was elected. Listen to me, you are safer in the U.S. no matter what. Italy is not a friendly place for any LGBTQIA+ person, nor for foreigners in general. Moreover, its economic outlook is glooming, many companies are shutting down, inflation is skyrocketing as well as public debt. If you like the Mediterranean climate and want a decent country with decent people and welfare, consider Spain or France. And forget about your ancestry, your ancestors were emigrants for really good reasons.
What ever you think about the American situation, it is far worse than you think. In two days they have removed protections against racial and gender discrimination, passed an executive order defining what a man and a woman is (one that goes against a middle school understanding of biology), effectively got rid of all DEI programs and departments, making it so children have to be molested to prove they are not identifying as a different gender when trying to join sports, and are going to be checking people's sex before they can enter bathrooms.
But I do think you are right that Italy might be worth avoiding, but we are gonna need to get citizenship through them as they are the easiest, and Europe is the safest place for us. I think we might stay in the Netherlands while we pursue Italian citizenship.
2025 has started in Italy with a series of public aggressions to gay people, there is no law against homophobia or transphobia (which make homofobic people feel legitimated), there is no marriage equality or possibility to adopt (even lesbians living with their partner and having some children from previous relationships have been taken away their own children), and nobody even questioned there being more than two genders here, don't forget the Vatican is close. If any member of your entourage belongs to the LGBTQ community, avoid Italy as the plague, they would not be safe here. Btw: did I mention that public offices don't run properly due to lack of money? If you apply for citizenship now maybe your grandchildren will be able to have it in 25 years or so.