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[-] jpablo68@infosec.pub 19 points 2 months ago

I'm in a quest to find a good email provider that doesn't ask for a cellphone or another email address while creating an account, cock.li used to do this but now it's "getting back on its feet"

[-] fatalicus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Just signed up for Tuta and they do not ask for this.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Tuta won't let you check mail unless you give them a phone number or pay, if I recall correctly.

[-] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago
[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago
[-] 3laws@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago
[-] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Their founder did, very openly and expressively, it was quite bizarre

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago

Then he tried to walk it back by gaslighting.

"I wasn't being political" said the man who was clearly being political.

[-] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

The CEO made a remark about Trump, and used his corporate account for it.

If I recall correctly (no press statement was made by Proton), it was a personal remark on a corporate account, which he was quick to allow anyone to do. It also didn't support Trump as a whole, just a remark Orangeman made about getting small business a level playing field (which I totally trust from an olicharch).

I'm still sticking with Proton for the foreseeable future, as its privacy awareness and advocacy is still a core business value.

[-] TotalCourage007@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

There used to be a way to make Google accounts with no number but that's probably been patched. I generally refuse to add numbers if I can help it.

Proton, Mailbox & fastmail are all good options. Best way to avoid it is self-hosting but that is beyond most people (as in time-consuming).

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 months ago

If it's associated with a specific device it will let you (ex my Android tv has its own account, no phone)

[-] wulf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Personally I use mailbox.org, it's not free, but you are not the product

[-] leadore@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago
[-] Fijxu@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago
[-] zagaberoo@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

Is that even feasible without getting marked as spam by all the major players?

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Hi, I recently set up my own email server

  • It's a huge pain in the ass getting things like DMARC and DKIM and whatever to work. Without those, most providers won't even deliver your messages. But luckily, there are websites that help you check and fix your configuration
  • Even once you do get these things set up correctly, most providers will send your outgoing messages straight to the recipient's spam folder
  • That being said, I believe most providers will mark you as "not spam" if the other person initiates the conversation. So this could be a non-problem if you're making an email for your business and putting it on business cards or something.
  • Mullvad (VPN provider) self-hosts their support email, and they seem to be doing fine.

Hope that helps

[-] Fijxu@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago

Yes. I host my own using Mailu.io. With the proper records, you will be able to send emails to any big email provider (proton, gmail, outlook). You need to pick a good TLD (.com, .net, .org, etc) so you don't get your email thrown into the spam folder immediately.

If you buy a domain now, you will probably get on the Spamhaus blacklist, which every big email service seems to use (again, proton, gmail, outlook, and probably others), so you will need to wait a few months and keep a good spam record (well, don't send spam emails obviously and keep your email server with the proper configurations).

Also, pick a good VPS provider (No vultr, no linode) with low levels of abuse, because if you setup your email server in an IP range with a lot of abusers, you may get your email flagged. (You can check that using https://www.uceprotect.net/en/rblcheck.php, but I'm not sure if uceprotect is trustable).

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

You can host your domain pretty much anywhere and they will provide mail hosting as part of most packages. From there, it's up to you to talk to their servers to manage your mails, typically through IMAP.

Hosting companies will be whitelisted as far as mail routing is concerned.

[-] Matombo@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

create 2 proton mail account und use each other as a backup e-mail

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Ionos enabled me to do that.
But I chose not to.

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