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[-] Bleys@lemmy.world 88 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lukewarm take: mods had valid grievances, but were dumb as fuck to unilaterally make a major decision without even consulting the community beforehand, which is definitely worse imo.

It reminds me of so many subreddits where overactive mods decide they know what’s best for their subreddit and impose rules that would never pass a basic yes/no poll, demonstrating they don’t actually care about the community. Mods are supposed to be janitors (not an insult, just statement of fact), but too often act with the presumed arrogance of “leaders”.

Edit to add: this is what the mods should have done:

  1. Make a stickied thread with examples of users being banned or comments being removed unjustly
  2. Ask users if the above justifies moving to a new host, and if so ask which one

It’s that simple

[-] princessnorah 41 points 1 week ago

...impose rules that would never pass a basic yes/no poll...

I generally agree with your comment, but I wanted to point out that the tyranny of the majority can still be a major issue. For example, there are often times when a majority of people believe the opposite of what a small number of experts agree is the best course of action. You can see this in laws that suppress trans rights receiving wider public support, even when they go against medical best practices.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

So? The solution isn't some oligarchy making dictatorial or unilateral decisions on behalf of the majority. The solution is the minority are free to move to their preferred platform and build a new community...

[-] princessnorah 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is a poor take on how to deal with the tyranny of the majority, in my opinion. I wasn't saying it necessarily applied here, and was only bringing it up as a caution against absolute democracy. Here's a longer form example:

Say you have a software project that operates as an absolute democracy. Each and every new software feature that the developers work on is decided by a vote of all users and contributors to the project. For vote after vote, the feature "implement screen-reader support" is passed over for shinier and more exciting new features, after all the vast majority of voters don't use a screen-reader.

Wouldn't you say that it is fair if eventually the developers told the community "Nope, we're going to implement screen-reader support as the next feature"? Or do you believe the blind users should have to fork the project and implement screen-reader support for themselves? After all, they've been "free" to do that the whole time.

[-] PeachyMcPeachface 5 points 1 week ago

California just voted to keep slavery of inmates legal, as another example of tyranny of the majority.

Bleys is right, the community should've been in the loop earlier. We were (ironically) worried about potentially upsetting Ada and we just kept making the wrong decisions. Obviously, the move without a (at the bare minimum) heads up was the wrong one.

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