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[-] flicker@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

I see this a lot. Someone asserts a truth (eating less meat is good for the environment), some prick pivots to assert that there are other things society can do (the rich take too many trips in private planes!) And every time it happens, it comes from someone who doesn't like the first assertion and is trying to point at another problem they feel makes their behavior look less stupid and selfish.

It reminds me of a child caught misbehaving, who points at another child and snitches on them, hoping to distract their way out of trouble. "You can't be mad at me for stealing a cookie because Jimmy stole three!"

An enlightened person would make the changes they can control, instead of pointing at ones they can't as if it absolves them. Hell, even just admitting they don't want to is less dishonest.

[-] kokiriflute@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Let me put it into perspective for you, "self-proclaimed enlightened geniuses". Let's say you own a house. I start charging people to dump garbage at your house. It starts leeching into the soil, mold starts growing on the house, and I get rich doing it. I tell you the problem would get better if you stopped producing any trash. Then I take my private jet to my private island and start throwing my trash on someone else's property.

[-] SomeoneElse@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Are you referring to me as “selfish” “prick” “childish” “dishonest” “stupid” and unenlightened?

[-] CantSt0pPoppin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's true that there are many things that society can do to prevent environmental disaster, and the wealthy are certainly not the only ones who need to make changes. But let's not forget that billionaires have a disproportionate amount of wealth and power, and they use this power to influence government policy and corporate practices in ways that benefit themselves at the expense of the rest of society.

For example, billionaires have been major beneficiaries of tax cuts that have shifted the tax burden onto the middle class and the poor. They have also used their money to lobby for policies that weaken environmental regulations and promote climate change denial. And they have used their control over corporations to exploit workers, drive down wages, and ship jobs overseas.

. They are actively shaping the system in ways that benefit them at the expense of everyone else. And this is why it is so important to hold them accountable. Sure, we can all make changes to reduce our environmental impact.

But these changes will have a much greater impact if they are made by the wealthy. For example, if billionaires stopped taking private jets, this would have a much greater impact on reducing greenhouse gas emissions than if the average person gave up eating meat.

So, to answer your question, I it's a global responsibility and everyone including the billionaires living their lives above us all must start acting to help humanity as a whole. We need to make changes that we can control, and we also need to hold billionaires accountable for their actions. Only by doing both can we hope to make a real difference in the fight against climate change and other environmental problems.

But let's not kid ourselves. The wealthy are not going to give up their power and privilege without a fight. They will use their money and influence to try to derail any efforts to hold them accountable. That's why it is so important to build a mass movement of people who are willing to stand up to the billionaires and demand that they be held accountable for their actions.

The rich are certainly not the only ones who need to make change, but you can't ignore that they must be held accountable for the damage they do to the world. They have a disproportionate amount of money and power, and they use this power to bend society and governments into their image.

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