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[-] Alenalda@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago

And nothing of value was lost.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

TikTok turned the youth pro Palestine whereas Facebook and Xitter censored it.

[-] Letme@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago

And those same youth then gave us an oligarchy, useful fools

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago

The oligarchy has been in charge since before those people were born.

[-] Letme@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Apathy is the glove into which evil slips its hand

[-] cocomutative_diagram@infosec.pub 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

If TikTok has the power to "turn" youth into pro Palestine, they can also turn the youth pro China when China invades Taiwan.

TikTok is in its expansion phase so it need to show its good will, but as soon as it is large enough, it will seek to do whatever make them the most money, like everyone else.

Time and time again, big-tech controlled social media have intervened and will continue to intervene with public opinion, Meta, Xitter, TikTok, all in their own ways.

If government decide to ban meta tomorrow, will you object as hard as banning tiktok?

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago

If TikTok has the power to "turn" youth into pro Palestine, they can also turn the youth pro China when China invades Taiwan

You're not making the argument you think you're making here. Tiktok showed young people the uncensored truth about the genocide. If showing the uncensored truth about Taiwan makes young people want an invasion by China, then it means China is right?

[-] cocomutative_diagram@infosec.pub 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

You would honestly believe a giant media conglomerate and one of the most influential tech monopolies in this hyper-capitalistic world shows people completely unbiased news, just out of the goodness of their heart? For their unconditional love towards the vulnerable underaged population that they intentionally attracted?

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

So let's instead confine ourselves to social media from western countries which reflects exclusively western bias, whether through censorship as is the case of Meta/X, or through contributions by overwhelmingly white western men as is the case of Lemmy. Just look at politics.world and see what country most linked articles are from.

Maybe, just maybe, having more diverse options, including social media from other countries not subjected to western bias, could be good? That way maybe you can see some realities hidden by the Chinese government heavily publicised in western social media, and viceversa

[-] cocomutative_diagram@infosec.pub 1 points 4 hours ago

In principle yes, but it is in general dangerous to think that social media can be a learning moment and people should use whatever pushed to them to guide their behavior.

The content is eventually controlled by several monopolies and will serve their own good. As social media are natural monopolies, it is also really hard to build ethical platforms that competes with the ones backed by capital.

Westerners are priviliaged to have a diverse and free news/media landscape, non-profits pushing for truthful and accessible knowledge, and world-class educational institutions. I, as a Chinese, have never experienced such when growing up.

Yet, I see people insist a giant Chinese tech monopoly is their best learning experience, instead of resorting to more time-proven, unbiased, and trust-worthy ways to learn. Doesn't this sound dangerous to you?

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Westerners are priviliaged to have a diverse and free news/media landscape, non-profits pushing for truthful and accessible knowledge, and world-class educational institutions

Bullshit. Westerners fall for western propaganda as much as anyone. Most on Lemmy were certain that the submarine cables were destroyed by the Russians on purpose, turns out the consensus isn't the case. Most on Lemmy were certain that Nordstream was blown up by Russian, turned out not to be the case. Most on Lemmy believe there's an ongoing genocide against Uyghur people, turns out it's not the case. Most on Lemmy believe there was a massacre in Tiananmen square (good luck asking them to spell it) because the CPC sent the PLA to murder protestors, instead of a clash between protestors and military which happened after weeks of pro-capitalist protests and started after protestors murdered some military personnel in negotiation attempts. Most on Lemmy are willing to forgive the support for Genocide in Gaza to the US and its constant imperialism and aren't willing to do the same for other countries.

You're just being extremely chauvinist and ignorant about the quality of information in the west, and unaware of the manufacture of consent and the fabrication of false information and narratives.

resorting to more time-proven, unbiased, and trust-worthy ways to learn

Which are these unbiased ways to learn you talk about? Can you provide me any examples?

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Tell that to the millions of American small businesses that thrived on the app. Billions of tax revenue just vanished.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

I see this sentiment a lot but I don’t understand, which small business are doing all of their business exclusive on TikTok?

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

It's less about only doing business on TikTok (there are many, however), but of all the other social media platforms, they get more engagement and sales from TikTok. (Ask yourself how many people are successfully selling their products and services on Lemmy, for example)

It allows people to make chained response videos that also shows their work, as well as illuminating the personality and goals of the people who run the business.

Connectivity between videos, with video responses to comments, is a powerful tool that TikTok does better, and it's created a boon for many who are self employed.

When 170 million Americans are using the platform, your level of exposure skyrockets.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Ask yourself how many people are successfully selling their products and services on Lemmy, for example

I’m still stuck on asking how many people are successfully selling their products and services on TikTok.

Like, what businesses are these and what are they selling? I wouldn’t imagine any of these social media platforms would be good for selling anything on. What’s an example of something I could go on TikTok and buy? I couldn’t imagine buying anything on any social media platform. I’ve never even seen anyone selling anything on any social media platform. How would I even do that if I wanted to?

[-] Whateley@lemm.ee 7 points 19 hours ago

Oh, no. Someone think of the pink sauce lady and dildo sellers!

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

And Quality Patch, Mr Seems, various actual artists who showcase and sell their work, candle makers, authors, wood artisans, leather and metal workers, and everyone else who was doing well and making good products.

Your flippance shows you know noting.

[-] Whateley@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Yeah, that was quite inhumane of me. How can I hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth from werewolf gangbang authors and used underwear merchants and not despair?

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