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[-] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What the fuck... Really? Holy shit and what the actual fuck. As example ever heard about Snowden? Chelsea Manning? Assange? Unbelievable wtf

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 38 points 3 days ago
[-] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

Facts should no longer be admitted or confirmed, which is why they are facts. It would have been different if, for example, some disinformation campaigns had been launched afterwards in an attempt to conceal the facts. So it was accepted, but attempts were made to shift the focus onto the "traitors to the country"... with success... sad that Americans who care about Americans are being hunted by Americans globally.

They also admitted it much earlier, but without the words that actions conveyed instead.

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 days ago

That's not the meaning of the word.

[-] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It has been confirmed and proven by the facts - nothing more needs to be admitted. Apart from that... James Clapper has already been forgotten. Who made fun of it and what else was going on.... Nothing more had to be admitted.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

But they did. So you can stop trying to justify you not understanding the difference in what those words mean.

[-] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/10/nsa-spying-scandal-what-we-have-learned

"President Barack Obama described the programmes as vital to keeping Americans safe and said the US was "going to have to make some choices between balancing privacy and security to protect against terror". The NSA access was enabled by changes to US surveillance law introduced under President George Bush and renewed under Obama in December 2012."

We just forget anything right?

[-] amon@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

People forgot about Snowden after a month, it's been 12 years already, let it come back to the public consciousness

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