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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

We need a Google successor.

Something non-profit.

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The horrible reality is that Bing has actually become a competitor to Google, simply by Google getting worse and worse. Microsoft used to be the main bad guy, but these days they practically seem benign compared to the others. Not open source like you're saying, of course.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago

The ai generated top reply on Bing pisses me off 90% of the time. Word salad with citations.

[-] ArcticCircleSystem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Often citations for fake books or rare print material the AI couldn't possibly have had access to. ~Cherri

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

The infrastructure to crawl, store, and serve search results to billions of users is phenomenally expensive. A government might fund it (which comes with its own concerns), but a non-profit will struggle to compete.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

I would pay a subscription if it were truly non profit and had no ads.

[-] 33KK 3 points 2 years ago

When you factor out all the garbage content it's suddebly affordable lol

[-] spaduf 3 points 2 years ago

Federated search is possible but has not gotten a lot of attention yet.

[-] ArcticCircleSystem@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

If you're talking about YaCY, apparently that's pretty much useless right now from what I've heard. ~Cherri

[-] spaduf 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There's actually a lot of theory and early work out there on the topic of federated search. While existing search aggregators like Searx and YaCY certainly qualify as federated, search infrastructure built from the ground up with decentralization in mind would look very different.

[-] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Wikipedia probably has the resources to do it, wikisearch. Somebody talk them into it. But yeah, modern search engines, pretty amazing the ones from two decades ago actually worked better.

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

This could be interesting. The infrastructure required to scrape the internet though is going to be so daunting. Google got to build it up slowly as the internet got bigger. Bing is backed by a huge corporation that already has data centers. A new non profit player is going to take a huge coordinated effort.

[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 8 points 2 years ago

I know P2P had become a dead buzzword, but what if people dedicated a portion of their computers to assisting an open search engine.

I would wait 30s for accurate results. It could also piggyback on a search aggregator.

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

There used to be an open source search aggregator, don't remember what it was called

[-] ArcticCircleSystem@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I think it was YaCY, but apparently it's basically useless for everyday use. ~Cherri

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah that looks like it! Why do you say it is useless? I have cloud credits that I could theoretically burn hosting one of these

[-] ArcticCircleSystem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

IIRC its results just aren't that good? I haven't tried it, this is just what I've heard. Maybe it's gotten better? ~Cherri

[-] Jocker@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Hmm.. Interesting.. That would be great.. If only something like that exists now!

[-] SJ0@lemmy.fbxl.net 6 points 2 years ago

Yacy exists but it's bad enough that it's one of the few options I don't self host.

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