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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Summary

Blanca Ojanguren, a 22-year-old Spanish tourist, was fatally attacked by an elephant at the Koh Yao Elephant Care sanctuary in Thailand while bathing the animal.

She was struck by its tusk, resulting in fatal injuries.

This tragedy highlights the risks of popular recreational activities involving elephants in Thailand.

It follows a recent fatal attack by a wild elephant on a Thai woman and adds to the 39 elephant-related deaths reported in 2024.

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[-] john89@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Uhh, you're assuming a lot without anything to back it up. Even if she was a student, her family is wealthy which is how she could afford this vacation.

If not, vacations to Thailand are not prohibitively expensive.

They are for the vast majority of people in the world.

Your accusations are baseless and you’re just glad someone died because they died. Kinda gross.

Yeah, no. This is completely false.

In short, you're wrong and upset because I dared to criticize how someone wastes their money while children are starving. I see it all the time and I'll see it again.

Gonna ignore you now. People like you are always desperate to defend their greed and entitlement, so you may have the last word. Goodbye.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's ~AUD$1200 (~US$750) return (~$590 per way, inc. checked bags) from Adelaide to Bangkok.

Pretty cheap if you're not way up in Canada somewhere. For reference, Adelaide to Toronto is just over AUD$6000 return.

Canadian holidays are for the rich.

Edit: From Madrid to Bangkok return is ~AUD$1300 (~$650 per way) (via China Eastern Airways though...)

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

The vast majority of people cannot afford a $1300 flight for a vacation.

All you're doing is highlighting how unaware you are about how poor most of the world is.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

You assumed far more than the person you responded to.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago
[-] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 6 months ago

They are for the vast majority of people in the world.

That's a bad argument. The average annual income for North America is the highest (57k$) followed by Europe (21k$). Combined they have about 1B people. The rest of the world has averages below 10k$, which means about 7B of the 8 billion earn that or lower on average. Take away fixed living costs of maybe 25-30% (probably more) and they are at ~650$/month, maybe 20% for food/drinks and other expenses and you're already at ~325$/month.

Traveling to the next big city in my country is ~50€ single direction, which is not unpayable but could cut well into the budget for the vast majority of the world. So, sure, to the rest of the world North American and European are rich. Does that mean that they all deserve to die? Does being a European being rich in Asia mean they are rich at home?

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The closer we get to the root of the problem, the more people we'll find that contribute to it and the fewer we'll find that are willing to admit it.

Good job defending your greed and entitlement. Nobody expected more from you.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 8 points 6 months ago

Do tell me what the root of the problem is.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

lol they attacked you personally for not hating people who… took at least one plane ride one time

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago
[-] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 6 months ago

So a person born poor, middle class, rich or otherwise, in a wealthy country, but by virtue of being born in a wealth country richer than 7 billion other people, is the problem because they are greedy? Or how am I supposed to understand this?

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

If you don't want to understand something, you won't understand it.

The fact remains that a vacation to Thailand is prohibitively expensive for the vast majority of people.

You just don’t want to acknowledge how you live in a world of privilege at the expense of those who don’t.

It’s okay, I see it all the time and I don’t expect any more of you at this point.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 6 months ago

"I can't express my point logically and will just assume the other is at fault." or alternatively *makes a bad point, won't elaborate, says collocutor is wrong, leaves, thinks they "won" the debate*

Great "talking" to you. I'm sure you'll be able to help people see the presumed error in their ways with your excellent rhetoric.

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