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You have a very strange way of talking about transgender rights. We're talking about the lives of trans people. People will die as a consequence of the laws they're trying to pass, taking our rights away. You again seemingly have no idea what you're talking about. Playing to our audience in this case would be backing off and letting them take our rights away. How in God's name do you plan to secretly protect our rights while publicly appealing to people trying to take them away? You cannot do both if you protect our rights then fascists won't align with you, and if you don't protect our rights and allow others to attack us then you're functionally one of them.
Again you are an enemy of the trans community who is literally arguing about why it is entirely acceptable for our rights to be taken away. You're arguing about why cis people should befriend violent transphobes by passively tolerating their bigotry. You see our rights as a game, a tool, a nice win in the end but if trans people need to take the hit now then so be it. I will never tolerate that. You are also laughably incapable of making a coherent argument to trans people about this position.
This post wasn't even about the push for universal healthcare. This post was about trans rights to access gender affirming care that literally saves our lives. You came in and essentially asked us to shut up about our rights to healthcare.
The answer categorically is NO. Say we get Universal healthcare but gender affirming care is banned federally (legitimately a thing they could do, they own every level of the government including the Supreme court). We would not have access to healthcare. Trans people definitionally would have NO ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE. What about this are you somehow failing to understand??? You clearly think that gender affirming care is a fine thing to just give up on for the moment, so why are you even here? Why not go and appeal to fascists directly, say you don't care about trans rights and attempt to appeal directly to them about fighting for universal health care? You're essentially angry that people are advocating for trans rights. So go join all the other people also angry about that. I don't get what you're doing here, who you're trying to appeal to. You can't care about trans people but be willing to give away our rights in concession for recruiting the fascist right to a broader movement. Trans people aren't going to support that because we would still lose our rights this way, public healthcare wouldn't matter because we wouldn't be allowed to access healthcare at all.
If right wingers are suddenly capable of seeing they've been misled on the subject of private health insurance why are you not pointing out that they've been misled on trans rights issues? Why is conceding to their bigotry an option in your mind?
I love that you say that talking to me is like talking to a brick wall, but again you're completely incapable of making a rational argument as to how giving up trans rights is in the best interest of trans people. Some trans people will die in the event that our rights are taken away. That's not a joke it's not a game. I'm not going to accept any campaign for class solidarity that doesn't include trans solidarity. Categorically, no. It's bizarre that you think trans people would agree to this, like you could somehow convince me that I'd be better off without rights for the moment. The conversation can't be about 100% of people if trans rights aren't also a part of it, definitionally you're saying trans people don't count towards that 100% or else that our rights don't matter.