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[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago

Lemmy when discussing health care: Karl Marx

Lemmy when discussing creative works: Ayn Rand

[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

It would sure be cool if all art could belong to all people.

Sadly, as long as we live in a profit driven system, there needs to be a way for artists to claim ownership over their work.

I don't see how people think this is any sort of slam dunk or how it could go against leftist principles.

[-] YummyYugi@ani.social 4 points 2 days ago

It would sure be cool if all health care could be access by all people.

Sadly, as long as we live in a profit driven system, there needs to be a way for doctors to make money from their work.

[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And no one on the left is advocating for a system where doctors would not be getting paid for their work under capitalism.

[-] YummyYugi@ani.social 1 points 1 day ago

No one on the left is advocating for work under capitalism.

[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Huh?

You can advocate for a different system while also acknowledging that things can't be ideal right now.

[-] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

So... Sounds like the health insurance companies, the companies that buy and redistribute intellectual properties for profit, and the general for profit systems are the problem?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

How do less popular artists support themselves if they can't sell their intellectual property?

[-] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

How do they support themselves now? Usually by having another income stream, or not very well...

Though I'm not suggesting they should give away their work for free. I'm saying they should maintain rights (and consequently royalties) to their work.

Regardless, we preferably would remove capitalism outright and work towards a future where artists can pursue their art for its own sake. Everything else is a bandaid.

[-] TheKingBombOmbKiller@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

I don't know if Marx would disagree with individual artists owning the intellectual right to their artworks.

And if you asked Lemmy about how long copyright should last, I doubt that Ayn Rand would approve.

[-] Lennny@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Everything's just a retelling of Gilgamesh anyway, why bother protecting "originality"

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, let a small number of billionaires to steal both the work and job of artists, then flood the market for art with poorly made mass produced garbage, because some idea guys are still pissed off about his artist and programmer friends not teaming up to make him GTA but set in his hometown, with VR support.

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