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[-] pop@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 year ago

"nobody is doing adderrall or these other drugs recreationally" wtf. It's extremely common to take these recreationally. I've done this multiple times, great with alcohol and better with alcohol and weed.

[-] havokdj@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If you think adderall is recreational then you have had very limited experience with drugs in your life. Almost everything else that's scheduled or illegal has a better recreational value.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I have a script for methylphenidate, my prescription is tracked and restricted by my governments health authority, I am only able to have 30 days worth every 30 days. If I try to get it ahead of time by a few weeks, they won't give it to me. My doctor can only give me three months worth of refills per prescription, so I have to get a new script every 3 months.

It's still listed as a narcotic.

Your version of recreation isn't the same as others, while your recreation may be more extreme, it doesn't make someone's "more tame" recreation and recreational use of narcotics in any form, any less recreational.

I take methylphenidate for the pharmacological benefit, not for recreation, but I could easily offload my meds for other people's recreation for a profit. I wouldn't, but I could. Point is, his recreational use isn't made invalid because it's not recreational enough in your opinion. If you're talking drugs that you don't need for Medical reasons, it's recreational.

[-] havokdj@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

prescription is tracked That's generally how prescriptions work. Keep in mind that just because it is a "narcotic" (I'll explained why it isn't a narcotic in a moment) doesn't mean it is a recreational drug.

Firstly, adderall is racemic which reduces the fun affects you would actually get from amphetamine. What we call "speed" is R-amphetamine, or amphetamine with R-enatinomers.

Secondly, narcotics have different definitions on who you ask, one is wildly more accurate than the other. Medically speaking, narcotics refer to opioids and opiates, basically anything psychoactive with numbing or paralyzing attributes. Cocaine doesn't do this (unless you get a lidocaine cut), yet it is classified as a narcotic (scheduled before they really started doing dirty shit like cutting with things like that). The government however does not classify amphetamines as a narcotic (which they would be correct).

I must warn you before we go on with this conversation that I have quite a fair bit of experience with CNS stimulants medically and otherwise, it is a subject that I have a large amount of knowledge in.

[-] pop@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago

Haha, or maybe I've upped the dosage? 60mg is the minimum - better to double. Ofc if you overuse its effect will lessen. I admire how sure you seem in your judgement of strangers.

[-] havokdj@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nobody said anything about overuse.

I'm not judging you, I'm simply telling you that adderall is not a recreational drug. People get high off diphenhydramine, you think that shit is recreational?

The most recreational thing about adderall is the performance enhancing benefits, it's great when you need to do a shit ton of cardio. Getting fucked up though? Not really.

[-] pop@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

Overuse? I'm not going to argue, you'll turn this discussion in to a beginners philosophy course.

My comment about judgment was referring to your confidence when declaring me as Inexperienced with drugs.

I now belive I'm talking to a very young person, this might be or it might not. Either way it's a waste of time to continue.

Take a proper dose - stop pushing your ignorance online, and have good time.

[-] havokdj@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't declare that you are inexperienced with drugs nor did I insinuate that you are. I simply made the statement that adderall AKA racemic amphetamine, a drug with no severe dopamine affecting, serotonin affecting, psychedelic, or mind altering properties, is not a recreational drug.

Maybe you can have fun on adderall, some people enjoy cock and ball torture, that doesn't make it recreational. Like I said, people get high on benadryl, that is still not a recreational drug.

And what does my age have to do with anything? Using age in an argument is extremely childish. "I'm a year older than you so I know what I'm talking about". I don't know your age and I do not care.

I agree that it is a waste of time to continue, as we are pretty much going in circles, however I don't think this discussion was a waste of time though and it gave us both different perspective at the end of it. Maybe we both don't agree on the classification of adderall as a substance outside of medicine, but we still saw another person's perspective on it.

With that being said, I hope you have a wonderful day and if you decide to try any other substances, continue to implement harm reduction practices!

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