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[-] A7thStone@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

You don't straw buy an AR then pick it up and cross state lines with it going to a known chaotic protest without premeditated "self defence".

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Carrying a gun is "premeditated self defence"? Are people only supposed to carry guns where it is safe? What is the purpose of that?

So many people pushing this ridiculous idea he is guilty for not staying at home, quaking in his boots. Right to self defense and to bear arms literally exist so that people don't have to fear walking outside because of asshat violent criminals and rioters.

And even more ridiculous saying the police and prosecutors didn't care. What do you mean? They went after him with everything they had. It was a jury of his peers that told them to f off with that shit.

But I guess lemmy only likes juries if they nullify actual murderers they like, not when they let go an innocent person they don't like. (I don't like Rittenhouse either, but that does not make him a murderer.)

[-] GNUTup@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago

I remember when I was a freshman in high school, I worked at a McDonald’s. For whatever reason, I owned a Burger King t shirt. As a 14 year old, I thought it would be funny to wear the Burger King shirt to work. I figured it would annoy my boss and might get a few reactions out of other people. It didn’t work, but there were no real consequences because of it.

You really can’t see how Rittenhouse did a similar thing? He went to a protest knowing he was diametrically opposite, politically, to people actually protesting and he did it with a big ass gun. Like my Burger King t shirt, this was very clearly sending a message of “I am your enemy.” And the message wasn’t on a harmless shirt, it was on a deadly big ass gun.

You really truly believe he had no intention of killing? Are you dumb?

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You really truly believe he had no intention of killing? Are you dumb?

Cops bring guns to risky arrests. Do you believe they have intention of killing? I do, at least conditionally, yes. As in they absolutely intend to kill the guy being arrested if he pulls a weapon. Almost everyone that carries a gun has the intention of shooting anyone who attacks them. That is the point of a gun.

Like my Burger King t shirt, this was very clearly sending a message of “I am your enemy.”

I don't know if he was hoping to shoot someone or if he expected to just intimidate them and didn't expect anyone would be dumb enough to start attacking a guy with a big ass gun. From legal perspective, I don't care, hoping for something is not illegal.

From whether Rittenhouse is an asshole, I already said I think he is anyway.

[-] GNUTup@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Rittenhouse was not a cop, he was a douchebag little shit stirrer with a murder fantasy, and he got exactly what he wanted — a fun murder spree killing liberals with no consequences.

I’m not going to coordinate an effort to lynch the piece of shit, but spreading bullshit about how “he’s not a murderer,” like what you’re doing, is disingenuous at best. Kindly, shut the fuck up

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

He got exactly what he wanted — a fun murder spree killing liberals with no consequences.

He killed two violent assholes who not only thought attacking people on the streets for their opinions is acceptable, but were dumb enough to attack and keep attacking someone with a gun in his hands. I give zero shits about if he wanted to do it.

It was not murder, since murder means killing illegally, which this was not. Not even if he was hoping they would attack him and went there for that purpose.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It was not murder, since murder means killing illegally

You could have picked from so many different reasons to why this was not murder, but this one takes the cake.

I have another one!

Murder is a crime, and Criminals are in Jail.

Since he is not, it could not have been murder! CHECKMATE LIBERALS /s

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What the fuck do you mean? Murder, as most words, has a definition. I don't pick what a word means based on how I feel about a topic.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nothing!

Please keep talking about what murder is! I really need to know.

[-] GNUTup@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Violent bloodthirsty evil thug, then. Is that better for you, Herr Pedant?

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Whether someone is supposed to be in prison is not pedantism.

[-] GNUTup@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Orchestrating a scenario in which the only possible outcome is self-defense by deadly force sounds an awful lot like premeditated murder, to me. I think you should reevaluate what you consider pedantry.

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

So people attacking him for his opinions is the only possible outcome? Has your brain rotted away?

[-] GNUTup@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

People attacked him because he had a big gigantic deadly gun and was goading a literal angry mob with the gun.

It’s now more clear to me than ever that you are intentionally acting in bad faith. What is wrong with you?

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

People are attacking him because he has a big gigantic deadly gun

He has a right to carry a gigantic gun.

goading

Carrying a gun is not considered goading by any sane person.

[-] GNUTup@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It absolutely is considered goading. If lifting your shirt to reveal a gun holstered can be considered a threat (one that police can legally shoot you over) then carrying a rifle at a protest and starting shit with the protestors is also a threat.

He didn’t go there to make his voice heard — he went there to intimidate and kill.

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

then carrying a rifle at a protest and starting shit with the protestors is also a threat.

If a person threatens someone and gets attacked, he cannot claim self-defense. The jury decided he did not threaten them. It would have been murder otherwise and he would be in prison.

[-] GNUTup@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

The jury also decided OJ Simpson was innocent. Get fucked, boot licker

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So why don't we have you decide instead of juries? You clearly know better than the rest of the population. /s

[-] GNUTup@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

/uj

If every version of you present on a jury could be replaced with someone like me, the justice system would probably function better than it does now.

/rj

Get fucked, bootlicker.

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 6 points 10 months ago

Everything they had? He's still alive. That's more than most shooters get.

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Aaah right, so now they should have just executed him without a trial. :D

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No? But usually shooters get shot, especially if they shoot blindly into unarmed folks. How isn't anyone able to read any more? Did I write trial?

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Active shooters? Sure. He wasn't active anymore when the cops got there.

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah and you don't get acquitted of that either. Also one of the surviving "victims" doesn't blow the prosecution's case by being honest in your scenario. That look of defeat photo is priceless.

[-] A7thStone@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It's not "my scenario", it was what fucking happened. Also do you people ever get tired of making sock puppets when you're stupidity gets banned?

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Why are you so dependant on the court acknowledged and recorded reality of what happened being false? Your rhetoric doesn;t work with facts, so you ignore those instead of constructing an argument that works within reality, for some reason. People like you cry about rittenhouse and that pearl guy, and then go celebrate Luigi.

[-] A7thStone@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Why are you so dependant on bootlicking and insisting a deranged little racist was justified in murdering people, and vilifying a person who the courts, you seem to rely on to tell you what to believe, hadn't even tried yet. And you so haven't answered my sock puppet question. Do you make new accounts when you're idiocy and hate gets banned, or do you make them because you're afraid people will check your history and realise your a sycophant for authoritarianism.

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ok we're done here, you can't not lie about the actual events and I won't longer entertain political discussion with those that can't at least do that. BTW, it's really funny you calling me the authoritarian, considering your (see, not "you're", buddy) evident ideology. Do you seriously not know the Rittenhouse trial is long, long over? JFC.

[-] A7thStone@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I still don't know what "actual" events you are taking about. You're (not your) the one ignoring what happened so you can sit at home edging yourself over a murderous little shit knowing you'll never have the balls to do it yourself so you live vicariously through other racist fucks. I would feel sorry for hateful morons like yourself, but unfortunately you have chosen to fuck up the world for the rest of us.

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

try wikipedia, moron

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